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    Default my designer must be backwards

    Quote Originally Posted by Amonaug View Post
    Actually CW is backwards from most 3D programs.

    Most 3D programs pure white (255,255,255) is the highest point. In CW the default is pure black (0,0,0) as the highest point.

    A crude visual in profile (looking at it edge on instead of the top)
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    0,0,0
           \
             \
               \
                 128,128,128
                   \
                     \
                       \ 
                         255,255,255
    Would produce an incline with the highest point to the left and going down to the right.

    cause this is what i get. the forhead is white so it is higher in the carving than the eye area.

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    Hmmmm, because when I take that image straight into designer with "import image" it has the white areas as the lowest parts. If I invert it then I have what you have pictured.

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    Default mine was in pattern editor

    maybe thats the difference?

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    Question You're all wrong & You're all right

    Hey Folks,

    After reading this thread I became curious myself. Now I design patterns and I know how I use the shades to get my results. BUT, I found something very interesting here. Bear with me as this may be a bit confusing. I hope the photos will help.

    Viewing the first photo as columns, left top to bottom and then right.

    First photo - Left Column:
    I opened up PSP. Made two simple lines. The top at Shade 200 (lighter), the bottom at 55 (Darker). Then I imported it directly into Designer (no Editor) and you can see the results. The light line is cut lower & the dark is higher. Just as I suspected. So, Dark is top of the board and Light is the bottom.

    Hold on now....

    First photo - Right Column:
    The top picture is what it looks like in my pattern list. I named it 200 - 55. Notice anything? Now the top line is dark and the bottom light. Hmmmm, Same carve. Designer has switched them around. So I double clicked it to open it in Editor and Yep, top line is dark, bottom line light. So I saved it to library from editor and it's the same as the import. So now, Dark is the Bottom of the board and Light is the top.

    NOW....LOL this is where it gets interesting. I took one of my pattern test carves and scanned it.

    Second Photo:
    As you can plainly see, the scan on the right and the results on the left. BUT, here, The light areas are higher and the dark, lower.

    When I imported the lines they stayed the same in the "Import" dialog box but once "Saved" into the pattern list, Designer switches them around.

    So, all this tells me that as far as "Designer" is concerned, and so long as there's been no inverting along the way, Black is the bottom of the board and White is the top.

    Whew....As most software design companies do, there are several departments each charged with designing a specific area of the program. It would almost seem as though the department in charge of "Designer" and the department in charge of "Pattern Editor", got the instructions of "Black & White" opposite of each other.

    Hmmm, interesting. Is everybody now completely confused...lol

    Chris
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    Hay Chris
    Did you try this in version 1.120 as well?
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    Hey there Dr.,

    Long time....lol

    Not this exact test Bob but since all of my scans were done when I first got my CW (prior to 1.120) and the resulting image was the same, I'd have to say there's probably no difference between the versions on this.
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    I got the same results in both
    anwsered my own question LOL!!
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    Running my testing today on the sled.
    I am very confident.
    Will PM you with results today some time
    Bob
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    COOL!!! Can't wait to see the outcome. Does Canada allow for US patents?? LOL You might be rich one day.
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    Actualy I will PM you about that too
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