Thanks everyone for your help and ideas! I've been working on Pete for a few months, trying all kinds of things, but ended up with double lines, divots everywhere, etc. We just got the CW in December and have been trying to learn...so much to learn! We do other signs, but wanted to get a crafter's license for OSU. Didn't feel like we needed to bother until we could get a good Pete! I should have come on here a lot sooner (no wait, that's OU, LOL). Thanks for all the patience and help with a newbie!