Jpaluck, there is nothing that I would like better than to show the patterns that I work on or learn on one of the 3rd party software, my thing that I want to do is making like bowls thicker than .75 thick and Head bust of pictures of people I know I would like to make things that people would use and not just make simple signs I would like to make my own patterns and work more under the 3-d sliceing but from what I have heard from Dan & Eddie you need to learn the 3-d software I want to be on the level that... you, Eddie and Dan are at ...