I seen Floyd's pheasant clock and thought I would try the number placement on a clock blank pattern that I down loaded awhile back, I'm using the new and approved 2.004 I've managed to get the numbers to follow a circle but the numbers are to big and it starts at about the 4 o'clock position I don't know how to get the #1 in the right place and the right size. SO here I go with ? again ...thanks guys