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    Hi all,
    We are seriously considering a carvewright system for our business. We are trying to cut out the middle man after various bad experiences with laser engraving businesses. Its taking two to three weeks minimum to get our product back and it is slowing us down. We know that the carvewright will expand our inventory line which is awesome. However we want to make sure that we understand the equipment and that it can help with our original product line before we invest. We make custom turkey and deer calls. Our biggest concern is how easily and accurately the equipment can handle our logo on our turkey pot calls. We are considering using the machine to completely carve out the inside of the pot as well. We currently do them on a wood lathe. Any idea how long this may take? We will be applying our logo as a vector image within a 1.8" circular space. Can the machine handle something that small with the detail we have legibly? Can we still use this logo but exclude just a little bit of the detailing if not? Any suggestions or advice? We appreciate any help or input!
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    I would say that the logo detail you need is pushing it. Can you post a logo vector image file? The machine, however, could probability make the turkey pot call itself. So, if you post more info on the call itself, we can see how the machine would make it.

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    I agree. If you left the text on but the image with the mountain and trees off you could do a light scribe with a vbit. It would be pushing it even at that.

    Why not buy your own laser printer and print yourself? Should be easy to do and gives you full control. Business write off too.
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    We have looked into a laser engraver but are limited in our options and they run approximately 8K. Write off or not that's a bit ambitious at the moment. The business is new and small. If the carvewright can handle our current work load it opens us up to new work and possibilities that are more in line with what we want to offer. We are a sporting goods company. Carving and "rustic" applications are more in line with the vision that we have for the company. We don't yet have the logo reformatted in vector form. The original logo file was built in photoshop as a layered document. We have sent it to laser companies that have converted it but we were not given that file. We are a husband and wife team here. I (the wife) have a 12-13 year history in design and have worked in vector format but our software at home is not vector friendly that I am aware of. In the past I worked with Adobe Illustrator, Corel Draw and a Vinyl application program that came with the plotter that I ran. My intention is to upgrade some software when we get the machine and utilize the capabilities of the software that comes with the carvewright. Does Designer 2.0 have an option to vectorize graphics and then go in and clean up any unwanted messes that the rastered file left? I will include a gif file with this post of just our logo and can provide layered, pdf, or eps versions as well. We are willing to eliminate some of the detail and keep the original feel of the logo to aide the machine. We have also discussed enlarging the logo to fit the entire pot and let the holes that are there for sound purposes fall where they may (within reason) I will follow up with an image of how that would look.
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    What about a rotary engraver? I hear they are more reliable and much cheaper. And upkeep is easier as well. From what I hear.
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    Here is some quick mock ups of your turkey pot call. I have no idea how it is really made but here is what I threw together. This is what it would like in the Designer program. The machine would make pretty well what you see. (It is 3.8" in diameter.) The logo could look quite a bit better if it was cleaned up for this purpose.
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    Thanks for the mock ups bergerud. We have been working with our logo this evening against a turkey call and adapting it to hopefully suit the carvewright a little better. This is what we have mocked up. We want to maintain as much detail in the finished product as possible. The yellow areas would, if possible be completely cut out to let out sound rather than using the original sound holes. I am also including a png of the entire file. I'm posting the inside of the pot as well. Keep in mind that this pot has the original sound holes in it. Currenly on the wood lathe the calls are taking me about 45 min to complete. I was hoping the carvewright would give me a break off the lathe and do some neat stuff carving the logo sound holes and eliminating the cost of the laser work. I'm guessing it would also be a two sided carve if i use carvewright to do the inside hollowing.
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    The time for the machine to do it would be about the same if you choose the the highest quality carving. You could also make many at a time. Looks feasible to me. Let us know what you decide to do. We here on the forum just love to help out.

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    Thanks everyone for the peace of mind and advice. Just wanting to make an educated purchase here. One last thing... Would you guys recommend the 60 degree V-bit and centerline text for this logo work or could we get by without it for the time being?

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    Take a look at Full Spectrum Laser. They have 40 watt machines starting at about $2500 that could easily do what you want. I have owned the 4th gen laser from them and now I have a 5th gen laser. Looking forward to upgrading to a 90 watt tube sometime this year.

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