I am sadden to once again see this subject come up. Time and time again these th well individuals, well nuts, just a little mad. I also am one that had such a great opportunity to make things on the CW because of the generosity of so many. Have no idea what it has cost me because since the expense of the machine 99% of everything I have made was given away. CW, running, upkeep, wood, trip to get the wood, time, finishing all of that is just given away, and OH HOW I HAVE LOVED TO DO IT AND SEE THE SMILES. John has made me a pattern that he put up for sale through the pattern depot. He spent around 9 months making it. And the guys that have helped me with patterns that I made trophies and gave them away to the Air Force guys. Both of those at my expense was over $200. How much fun it was to everyday visit this site to see what new creation someone came up with and would share, yet, years ago now. Thanks guys for helping me so much and now I find using my CW a lot less these days. Wish I was smart enough to learn how to do them myself. Been a great several years with everyone.