I don't mean to kick a dead horse, but maybe this might help someone, the ultiment package has'nt offered the 2d and the 3d software until 2 weeks ago. so at the time, I thought the package included all that the carvewright had to offer...witch it did'nt, I bought it 9 weeks ago. so I orderd it today and the 2d vector and 3d advance software is on sale for sale as a set for $50.00 dollars less for the month of Dec.