FIX for: Z-Axis error err E06-0313 during setup

[Digitalwoodshop]

There is another thread on this but I wanted to bring it to a place where it might be looked at.... It is also posted in RED as I thought it was VERY IMPORTANT.

The Problem.... If you use a After Market Chuck and you get this error during Bit Checks with the 1/8 inch Cutting Bit.... YOUR CUTTING BIT IS TOO LONG...... That's IT.....

George "Mannwranglers" called me tonight and had posted in the other thread and His Bit length was 1.51 inches from the back of the Locking Ring where it would bump up against the ROCK Chuck and to the end of the cutting tip.

MY bit was 1.41 inches from back of lock ring to Cutting Tip....

He changed it while we were on the Phone and guess WHAT... It WORKED.....

The machine has been OPTIMIZED for the Bit Length of the CARVTITE......

I am doing LHR a BIG PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT HERE AND SAVING THEM A FEW PHONE CALLS A DAY POSTING THIS.....

They tightened up the window of Bit Length.... I bet they never expected it to cause the Phone to Ring off the Hook.... Your Welcome...

AL Who.

[skeeterman]

I agree with your solution Al, had same error for a couple of projects that i have carved before checked the ffc cable and nothing came from it
changed the bit length and wala it worked
thanks for all uou do Al
steve

[Digitalwoodshop]

Your Welcome !!!!

Glad someone could use it...

AL

[lostinthefrost]

Thanks AL!
Its been 1 month since I used my machine, but I did update the software on both of my cards. This is the first project I have done and its gave me that error on 6 attempts. It was getting old. I am also having it cut deeper of and on when it's not suppose to

[lynnfrwd]

Let me know if you know what his username might be and I'll advance him through to a registered user.

[mtylerfl]

The Problem.... If you use a After Market Chuck and you get this error during Bit Checks with the 1/8 inch Cutting Bit.... YOUR CUTTING BIT IS TOO LONG...... That's IT.....George "Mannwranglers" called me tonight and had posted in the other thread and His Bit length was 1.51 inches from the back of the Locking Ring where it would bump up against the ROCK Chuck and to the end of the cutting tip. MY bit was 1.41 inches from back of lock ring to Cutting Tip....He changed it while we were on the Phone and guess WHAT... It WORKED

Hi AL,

It's good to reiterate the mounting of a bit in the Rock Chuck. LG had discovered that a bit mounted with over 1.50" sticking out of the chuck could cause Z problems (he posted about it in December 2009). He also said that would cause a problem for ANY chuck, not just the Rock.

The machine has been OPTIMIZED for the Bit Length of the CARVTITE......
They tightened up the window of Bit Length.... I bet they never expected it to cause the Phone to Ring off the Hook.... Your Welcome...

The folks at LHR (techs and engineers) are aware that Rock users can possibly be prone to have a higher incidence of Z-axis errors, depending on how the user mounts the bit.

When I wrote the Tips & Tricks article regarding the CarveTight introduction, there were some blow-by-blow product comparisons in the original draft of the article, along with cautions, etc. using third-party chucks. But, we decided instead to make a more "generic" statement...here's the excerpt from the article:

"The CarveTight is directly supported by CarveWright themselves, so if you ever have a question or problem, it can easily be addressed “in-house”. It can be very challenging for a support tech to help troubleshoot issues if a customer is using a third-party chuck on the machine. This “variable” can and does hinder the process in some cases because the tech (and the customer) cannot always be certain whether an issue is related to, or caused by, a third-party product or not. It is better to use factory-authorized parts on your machine, especially critical components such as the spindle, chuck and bits."

I am doing LHR a BIG PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT HERE AND SAVING THEM A FEW PHONE CALLS A DAY POSTING THIS

Yes, you certainly are! I recall I had a sudden slew of calls from folks experiencing Z-axis errors a couple years or so ago. Took me awhile, but finally put two-and-two together...they were all using the Rock Chuck. At the time, we (I) blamed bit-slip for the problem and the recommendation was to re-mount the bit in the Rock more securely. That seemed to work for everyone - at least I don't remember anyone it did not work for. However, I suspect now that most of the problem was actually due to the longer length of the Rock causing the bit to stick down too far and the "more secure remounting" of the bit probably resulted in the user choking up the bit higher in the chuck which was the real solution to the problem (note that some actually WERE bit slippage issues).

[Digitalwoodshop]

Some days it's the Paint Fumes talking..... I did not remember this same tip was posted in 2009.... Call it "When a Senior Moment and Ego Collide" The results can be messy.... Remember that Egg and Frying Pan Comercial.... This is your Ego (Brain)... This is your Ego (Brain) on Drugs.... LOL....

The older I get the BETTER I WAS.......

Had Lunch with ChrisAlb today as He was in town for a few days. He is doing well... He brought his Harley and sure enough.... It rained for 2 hours while we shot the breeze at lunch..... I am thinking He got home dry but not sure....

AL

[mtylerfl]

Hi AL,

There are so many things that bear repeating from time-to-time and new people coming along would likely never encounter (or know about) those older posts. I've even seriously considered writing Tips & Tricks that review the common techniques that most of us "ol' timers" take for granted. THANK YOU for every one of your helpful posts...you are a treasure-trove of information and much appreciated! I personally have referred back to multiple posts of yours for info and photo documentation on countless occasions - very handy indeed!

So glad to hear you could spend some time with Chris. Wish I could have been there too - that would have been fun to catch up with him!

[WCallister]

My machine is driving me up a wall. It's a reconditioned, and it already broke the switch for the motor cut-off (less than 12 hours). Not a big deal, I did a temporary work-around until I get the replacement wires and switch they are sending me.

Now, I did a couple more small projects, nothing major, and they did fine, although the bit seemed to develop some wobble, and it was chipping out the fine details on the carving. I assumed pilot error on this, and ensured the bit is tight, and properly installed in the quick change adapter.

Now, I am at 25 hours of use, but I have not gotten any completed products for the past 5-8 of those hours. They all seem to cut out part way through. There is no consistent times, it is sometimes in the board measuring, other times in the initial spin-up of the bit, and sometimes after it starts carving (sometimes almost immediately, others half way through the carve). I get all three of the axis errors, again at no consistent point. Also, the machine seems to shut down within a few seconds of displaying the error screen. I do not have it set to auto-shutoff. I followed the online troubleshooting guide for "intermittent power" and found that everything underneath appeared to be well connected, but after it would start running a board through (again, at various stages) it would display an axis error for a couple seconds and shut down. I could not get it to re-start, except if I were to jostle the machine a bit. This has led me to assume a faulty connection somewhere, which is specifically affecting the motor, but ultimately the whole machine.

Any help or recommendations on this would be extremely helpful. Thanks.

[lynnfrwd]

I hope he's midevilone. Kind of scary if it's not!!! Taken a chance here.