thanks alot that helps.. i guess the patterens i am trying to get to look better are eather two small in pixals or just to small... might have to just buy the ones that are close to what i want from pattern deperment. guess i will try a differnt try of carve... trying to do like a plaque with like miliraty logo and badges. might have to try something differnt for now.... but thanks for the help.... also i did see the machine option like skeeterman said. but when i went there it would not go back to the main window after setting the option. so i shut off the machine. was i spoust to wait and not touch anything or did i do right???