New Information about the CarveTight Spindle

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08-26-2011
lynnfrwd

New Information about the CarveTight Spindle

LHR continues to improve our products, making something that is already great...even better.

We already know the CarveTight Spindle is a great improvement over the old-style Quick Chuck, but now, by accident first, and then with further experimentation, we have discovered how to make the CarveTight Spindle have EVEN LESS VIBRATION, which also means EVEN LESS NOISE!!!

All CarveTight Spindles shipped from LHR Technologies, whether sold by themselves, as part of the CarveTight Service Upgrade package or sold in New Version C Machines will now have a slightly longer screw to hold the bit in place and two washers on them. Any machines that may have already been shipped to a distributor will not have these.

NOW THE REALLY GOOD NEWS FOR ALL OF YOU THAT ALREADY HAVE A CARVETIGHT:
You can go to your local box store and make these changes to your CarveTight yourself! All you need to upgrade your CarveTight is the following:

M5x20 Socket Head Cap Screw --- qty 1
#10 Split washer --- qty 2

Place the two washers on the longer screw. Remove the existing screw using the t-allen wrench and put the new screw with washers on your spindle.

Now, how does that sound?!
08-26-2011
mtylerfl

Thanks for the info, Connie. Can't wait to try it myself!
08-26-2011
TerryT

Sometimes good things are the easiest to accomplish. I'm going to pick them up tomorrow!
08-26-2011
fwharris

Connie,

Thanks for the update! Sounds very simple!
08-26-2011
jaroot

Well thanks Connie! I'll give it a try. I don't even really notice mine since I changed to the CT, Now the DC annoys me, but every little bit helps and less vibration should mean more reliability.

One Question for clarification:

M5x20 Socket Head Cap Screw --- qty 1
#10 Split washer --- qty 2

Split washers? As in Lock washer?
08-26-2011
lawrence

EXCELLENT update-- it is things like this - providing the information to improve the product - that will keep folks coming back for more

Good job LHR
Lawrence
08-26-2011
Digitalwoodshop

I am trying to imagine what Lynn posted.... Can someone post a picture... So we are not talking about the 4 bearings but the chuck itself?

The Locking Screw that holds the bit in place?

AL
08-26-2011
easybuilt

Thanks Connie! What a simple improvement.
08-27-2011
jaroot

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Attachment 46919Here is a pic of what I believe is being discussed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digitalwoodshop

I am trying to imagine what Lynn posted.... Can someone post a picture... So we are not talking about the 4 bearings but the chuck itself?

The Locking Screw that holds the bit in place?

AL
08-27-2011
liquidguitars

sounds like more mass = less air displacment.
08-27-2011
dbfletcher

The thing that struck me about this "update" was I actually asked this question way back in 2010.

Quote:

dbfletcher 04-23-2010, 09:53 PM
And we all know the rock chuck's are nearly perfectly balanced. I guess we will have to wat for MT to chime in and explain all the "benifits" over LHR or aftermarket chucks out there.

I's sticking with the rock unless there is some REAL benifit to this new chuck. I'd love to see a third party do a static and dynamic balance test on thest two chucks to see who the real winner is.

Doug Fletcher

I guess it took a while, but it would appear that this question has finally been answered. I'm not bashing anyone or anything... at the time I just wanted some empirical data that would compare all the chuck alternatives. Even now, I'd still love to see some data but I understand the logistics of getting impartial data in a way we could all agree was fair and balanced.

the original thread has since been archived, but you can still google it if your want to read the entire thread. Im not sure if it is possible to read archived items directly within the forum.

edit: I was mistaken... the entire thread still exists on the live forurm : http://forum.carvewright.com/showthr...chuck-released...
08-27-2011
SteveNelson46

I just tried this modification. The noise reduction is significant. At least 15%
08-27-2011
lynnfrwd

Just curious...how much for screw and washers?
08-27-2011
fwharris

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynnfrwd

Just curious...how much for screw and washers?

M5x20 $0.70 M5 split washer $0.10 each 2 = $0.20

I went with the M5 washer vs the #10 ... guessing that is ok????
08-27-2011
SteveNelson46

I bought them at Ace Hardware. About $1.00. They also had the M5 split washers instead of the #10 split (lock) washers.
08-27-2011
lynnfrwd

From what I understand, either will work, but metric was about more than twice the cost.

I haven't heard it yet. Just found out about it yesterday.
08-27-2011
fwharris

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynnfrwd

From what I understand, either will work, but metric was about more than twice the cost.

I haven't heard it yet. Just found out about it yesterday.

The #10 was .09, metric 0.10
08-28-2011
mtylerfl

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Socket Cap Screws and Washers

Hello,

I went to Home Depot for mine. The Socket Screws were $ 0.70 for a pack of two and the #10 split Washers were $ 0.98 for a pack of thirty.
08-28-2011
lynnfrwd

Okay, so not much at all. Good!!
09-07-2011
TerryT

I just did my first carve with this mod yesterday. Significant reduction in both noise and vibration. Heck of a mod for under a buck!
09-24-2011
Hasher

I received my "c" machine this week from Amazon it did not have this upgrade. It does make a difference.
09-24-2011
lynnfrwd

Did you order the N01 or the CW005 from them?
09-25-2011
Hasher

CW005 It had the CT but not the screw upgrade.
09-25-2011
lynnfrwd

Ok now I understand. Amazon got those machines before we discovered it.

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10-22-2011
BBrooks

I can confirm the heck out of this!
I just got a chance to put in the new bolt and washers today. Running full piercing cuts on this months POM, without any kind of equipment to monitor sound, I sense at least a 50% reduction in noise.
Fantastic!
Cheers!
01-02-2012
gregsolano

Kept putting it off but finally did this simple fix and was amazed at how much quieter the machine is and it definitely runs smoother with much less vibration. If you have not done this yet you need to do it now.
01-04-2012
cestout

I presume this is a ballance thing - moving the screw head out a smig.
Clint
01-06-2012
cestout

I did the upgrade and now my machine is no louder than my dust collector, the out-feed rollers don't continually turn, and the nob only turns instead of spinning; BUT, the bits don't slip in and out of the CT as easily as they did. I takes some tugging. I think the split collet might be a challenge to get out. I put the new screw in with no bit in, then a bit would not go in. I removed thew screw and installed a bit, then installed the screw.
Clint
01-06-2012
gregsolano

The split collet does sometimes stick, usually I open the hex screw a little more and it drops.
01-06-2012
jaroot

Usually all I have to do is move my hand away and the collet will conveniently fall in between the two belts making it harder to retrieve. :cool:
01-07-2012
gregsolano

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaroot

Usually all I have to do is move my hand away and the collet will conveniently fall in between the two belts making it harder to retrieve. :cool:

I have a better one than that, Because of my dust collector I sometimes change the bit with the truck near the keypad side. One time with the truck a little to far to the side and the bit fell into the crevice between side panel and belt assembly. Could not find my magnetic pick up tool so had a hell of a time fishing it out. (can you say hell on this forum? ) LOL.
09-06-2012
jackssib1

Installing bit? just slip in? or tighten.
09-06-2012
lynnfrwd

Use your t-Allen wrench to tighten.

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12-16-2014
rickyz

anyone know if this is the same size as the rock chuck? just curious....
12-16-2014
fwharris

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyz

anyone know if this is the same size as the rock chuck? just curious....

The Rock chuck comes in 2 styles, 1/4" or 1/2" and the CarveTight is 1/2". The rock also sits lower in the machine as it is added to the existing Z truck.
12-16-2014
lynnfrwd

Quote:

Originally Posted by fwharris

The Rock chuck comes in 2 styles, 1/4" or 1/2" and the CarveTight is 1/2". The rock also sits lower in the machine as it is added to the existing Z truck.

By sitting lower in the z-truck it can cause issues or not work with some of the newer features. The CarveTight is by LHR Technologies, the makers of CarveWright. The Rock Chuck is from a third party vendor.
12-16-2014
rickyz

sorry, I was talking about the bolt and thread size....got one of each, carvetight spindle and rock chuck....
12-16-2014
bergerud

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickyz

sorry, I was talking about the bolt and thread size....got one of each, carvetight spindle and rock chuck....

I bet they are not. CT is metric and I bet the Rock is not. But you should know if you have one of each. You tell us!
12-17-2014
rickyz

the thread appears to be an m5 metric......looks the same....will find out tonight after work....
m5 16mm long
this should keep my "a" machine running while I figure out my "c" machine problem.....it's carving but ridiculously loud. it's either z truck, flex shaft, or motor. need to diagnose after the holiday projects....
nope, not the m5. it is a standard fine thread...