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Ken Massingale
11-20-2008, 08:14 AM
I just got a 6" 220 grit mop from Klingspor. They recommend using it at 600-1000 rpm. This seems slow to me, but I hate to doubt them, they are sanding experts after all.

What speed are you guys using for your 6" mops?

Thanks

mtylerfl
11-20-2008, 08:24 AM
I just got a 6" 220 grit mop from Klingspor. They recommend using it at 600-1000 rpm. This seems slow to me, but I hate to doubt them, they are sanding experts after all.

What speed are you guys using for your 6" mops?

Thanks

I don't use a mop, but as a general rule for sanding, usually slower speeds are better. Too fast and the wood can burn, or the sandpaper can clog, or too much material is removed before you know it.

Sanding mops probably are not as susceptible to the caveats mentioned above for faster speeds. I think it's just a matter of experimentation and observation to determine the best useful speed for the material you are working with at any given time.

FiddlemakerMills
11-20-2008, 09:52 AM
Ken

When I first put mine togather I wasn't happy with the speed also. I ran it at 800rpm it was pretty agressive. At 1200 the mop came apart (frayed) at the edges and wore out faster.

I Have my drill press set at 700rpm and it works fine at that speed.

Carl

bjbethke
11-20-2008, 10:24 AM
I find Sanding Mops work best at high speeds; an electric drill does not work well. They not only sand, they also buff the carving. The sanding effect is like sanding a turning on a lathe.

I use a ¼ inch Air Die Grinder. The speed changes with air pressure.

They are cheep and easy to make. I found a mop 1” wide, and 2.5 to 3 inches work best for me. I use cloth back sanding strips, 180 grit, that works best for me.

FiddlemakerMills
11-20-2008, 12:09 PM
I guess the speed is adjusted to the size. The mop I am currently using is 8" in diameter. I made the mop from the instructions from Klingspore. The larger the diameter the slower you will have to run the mop. This set up works well for the instruments and toy's I make.

Ken Massingale
11-20-2008, 03:11 PM
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I'll go with 660 on the DP, the next speed I have is 1100.
Ken

dench
11-21-2008, 05:20 PM
HELLO to all ihave 3 mops and irun them at 2800rpm with no trouble and no ware the faster the better but you need to brake it in 1srt or it be too agressive if you want to soften it up you need to put spacers between the strips i use 10 spacers you still need to brake it in at least 4 to 5 min on a piece scrap wood i use 320 grit for carvings with 10 spacers works very well for me i use my drill press at 2800 to 3200 rpms

whr1900
11-21-2008, 05:34 PM
Hello

As usual I am behind the curve
I am sure you all have posted about the sanding mops in the past but I missed it.
Can someone tell me the purpose and how to make them
William

FiddlemakerMills
11-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Here is a pdf file that I use to make mine with. Just finished one for my lathe today.

Good for sanding the pesky fuz from the projects. I made the one for the lathe for cleaning the fiddles.

liquidguitars
11-21-2008, 06:09 PM
I find Sanding Mops work best at high speeds

The higher speed rates are better with sandpaper overall.

Just like carbide cutters, more speed can give you more cuts per revolution giving a cleaner finished product overall.

LG

supershingler
11-21-2008, 06:12 PM
do you need cloth back paper for the mops?

kendall

FiddlemakerMills
11-21-2008, 06:15 PM
Yes, they last longer.

whr1900
11-21-2008, 07:12 PM
Thanks for the info
I think I already have everything in the shop to make one and I am trying it tommorrow.
William:D

FiddlemakerMills
11-21-2008, 07:14 PM
Here are the two I made today.

whr1900
11-21-2008, 07:48 PM
:rolleyes:

What differences does the sizes make

The big one looks like a girls hair doo that I use to date:D

FiddlemakerMills
11-21-2008, 07:55 PM
I use the larger one for instruments, not as agressive and does a nicer job on the shape. It's also good for larger projects.

Dan-Woodman
11-21-2008, 09:32 PM
How about using torn cw traction belts after they tear?
later Daniel

Kenm810
11-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Hey Dan,

Way not, Good Idea -- They may be a little stiff at first, but they'll soften up quick enough.

Dan-Woodman
11-21-2008, 09:56 PM
I like Fiddlemakers picture of cutting or tearing each strip into narrower strips. This would be good for finer detail seems, and wider strips for smoother flatter surfaces.
If someone else asks " Where do you get the arbor?" just make one from a 1/4" bolt about 2"----2 1/2" long, cut the head off,add a nut , washer on both sides of sandpaper , and poof there it is .
later Daniel

Tomahawk 26
11-22-2008, 11:00 AM
I am so new that I have not gotten to a finished carving yet. I finally got the pattern editor software and then tried to carve the new pattern but alas my board sensor is acting up. Anyway, I am wondering how much sanding should I expect to do and what tools do you use? I have a dremel and various drills, I also have sanders but obviously they can only be used on the flats.