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MLAKEY
04-19-2007, 01:50 PM
Can Any One Tell Me Were I Can Find 3d Vector Art Of Militarty Symbols?

pkunk
04-19-2007, 01:58 PM
http://www.vectorart3d.com/store/index.cfm/Military_Emergency/

Charles M
04-19-2007, 01:59 PM
MLAKEY,

I don't know of a source. Is there something in particular you're looking for? Might help in locating something if we know what you want.

BTW, welcome to the group!

JamesB
04-19-2007, 02:57 PM
Sorry for posting this in the pattern sharing area - perhaps the mods will move it? In reponse to the question above about Military artwork on Vector Art 3D. Due to the information on a post in another area of the site regarding copyright for military emblems we have now removed the Marine Corps logo and Great Seal of the USA. We were not asked to do this but decided to be proactive. Until we can investigate the exact nature of the copyright and how it might apply to us this will be the case. Sorry to anyone who wanted them, we are keen that copyrights and intellectual property is protected for all though. Regards, James

HandTurnedMaple
04-19-2007, 11:06 PM
Just as soon as someone can explain how a government "by the people and for the people" can claim copyright protection over their citizens. (This a rhetorical statement, BTW. I don't care to have someone explain something that's fundamentally wrong.)

FINGERS
04-19-2007, 11:24 PM
If you think about it we as tax payers paid for it!
GBA

meat
04-20-2007, 12:07 AM
Can Any One Tell Me Were I Can Find 3d Vector Art Of Militarty Symbols?
What are you looking for, specifically?

Your pal,
Meat.

Talon One
04-20-2007, 02:57 AM
If you just want jpeg pictures of military patches you might try www.army.mil
Good Fishing

JamesB
04-20-2007, 07:37 AM
Originally we assumed that the images belonged "to the people" and this may turn out to the be the case. As has been said here there may be no problem in which case we'll list them again. Or it may just require us to put some additional language in the license. We will try and make a decision in the next week or so. Sorry for the inconvenience - regards, James

Jjones
04-20-2007, 08:09 AM
Ok... My aunt works for FEMA and she wanted me to make here a desktop name plaque. I went to dogpile.com and looked up the logo and this is what I found. The logo is PUBLIC DOMAIN. Here is the link http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:FEMA_logo.svg . I don't know about the rest of the logos but this one is public domain and can be used any way you want to use it. Hope this helps some,

P.S. I am glad to finally be able to post something on here. I will try to post some of my carvings later today.

HandTurnedMaple
04-20-2007, 08:50 AM
OK, I've stated my opinion's on whether these laws not being right and reasonable. And I'm sure most people are in agreement with me. But in the end, even improper laws must be followed. So here is the information I have found:

Seal of the President and Vice President (Executive Order 11649):
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11649

From the Department of Defense website: "NOTICE: Department of Defense, Military Service Seals and United in Memory Emblem are protected from unauthorized use by law. However, the Military Services typically approve the use of their Service emblem or coat of arms as a substitute. There is no such substitute for the Department of Defense Seal. To request use of the Service emblems or coat of arms, refer to our fact sheet."

http://www.defenselink.mil/multimedia/web_graphics/#mc

From the DoD fact sheet referred to above: "
Department of Defense and Military Seals are protected by law from unauthorized use. These seals may NOT be used for non-official purposes.
However, the Military Services typically approve the use of their Service emblem or coat of arms on a case-by-case basis as a substitute. There is no such substitute for the Department of Defense Seal."

http://www.defenselink.mil/faq/pis/sealuse.html

Refer to this link for contact information for each branch.

kpohl
04-20-2007, 10:53 AM
You will find a large amount of designs in books from doverpublications.com and if you go to Barns & Nobles you will see a large selection of books with CD's of all designs you can think off The price for a book is between $15-20. One book has several hundred designs. (All designs are permission and royalty free)
Karl

sk8nmike
04-20-2007, 02:25 PM
I'd be very careful of any information I found on a wiki source. These are public databases that anyone can add to, fact or fiction. As a retired Army NCO fairly well versed in the regulations I can tell you this, all insignia used my the military is for official use only, but in the public domain.

Meaning that you can copy (carve) and sell any of it you like. How you use it can get you into trouble though, wearing unauthorized insignia of rank, branch of service or awards can result in fine and or jail time.

So carving a plaque with the Army Seal, Rank and someone's name is perfectly legal. Displaying the same plaque by someone not entitled to is not.

radsquirrel
04-20-2007, 04:46 PM
Here is the link to the USAF site for pics: http://www.af.mil/library/symbol/

Here is the link on how to apply for commercial use of the symbols that we have: http://www.af.mil/library/symbol/commercialuse.asp

The process takes a while, but the DoD wants to make sure that any symbol will be used in a dignified manner. For all MAJCOM/Unit patches, you can get permission for their use by the respective agencies.

woody-ct
04-20-2007, 06:25 PM
CorelDraw has anumber of vector images in it's stock library, including crests, insignas and patches ( not all ) of course. If you can find an old version of Corel 3, it has some different ones, but they have been removed, at least by the time version 6 came out

Sarge
04-20-2007, 08:17 PM
radsquirrel,
You're right on the button. These regulations are pretty much "mirrored" across all of Department of Defense.
radsquirrel
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Military Symbols (USAF at least)

Here is the link to the USAF site for pics: http://www.af.mil/library/symbol/

Here is the link on how to apply for commercial use of the symbols that we have: http://www.af.mil/library/symbol/commercialuse.asp

The process takes a while, but the DoD wants to make sure that any symbol will be used in a dignified manner. For all MAJCOM/Unit patches, you can get permission for their use by the respective agencies.

As for the stuff we all get in Corel sets, straight from Corel's website:http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1152796558877
2.3 GOVERNMENT CRESTS, SEALS AND OTHER INSIGNIA:
The national and municipal insignia contained in this product are protected by various laws against misuse. Generally speaking, all logos, insignia, patches, seals, flags and coats of arms are for official use only. It is your responsibility to obey all national and international laws regulating display of the insignia, seals, flags and coats of arms contained herein.


I'd be very careful of any information I found on a wiki source. These are public databases that anyone can add to, fact or fiction. As a retired Army NCO fairly well versed in the regulations I can tell you this, all insignia used my the military is for official use only, but in the public domain.

Meaning that you can copy (carve) and sell any of it you like. How you use it can get you into trouble though, wearing unauthorized insignia of rank, branch of service or awards can result in fine and or jail time.

So carving a plaque with the Army Seal, Rank and someone's name is perfectly legal. Displaying the same plaque by someone not entitled to is not.

sk8nmike,
I posted the stuff from the Department of the Army, Institute of Heraldry. http://www.carvewright.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3232
As I am also a Retired Army NCO, I know the Regs too. They change over time!!! You can use the graphics on presentations, but you cannot sell the stuff without a license. An excerpt direct from the "horses" mouth:

Dear Mr. Inabnitt,
Your inquiry to The Institute of Heraldry has been referred to this office. You are correct that you need permission, but exactly what depends on your plans. We have massive problems with people using Army insignia, symbols, and so forth, without asking permission or getting a license. They're just in it to make money for themselves, even though these belong to the Army and to the country. In 2004, Congress gave us authority to begin true licensing and to retain the income from licensing (before, it had to go the Treasury, not the Army; not much benefit there). The "profits" go to MWR programs. So kudos to you for asking; lots of people don't.
Regards,

J. Scott Chafin
Trademark and Copyright Attorney
Regulatory Law and Intellectual Property Division
U.S. Army Legal Services Agency