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myshop1044
02-16-2017, 08:30 AM
The new Y tension pully has no teeth, yet the old one did, is the going to cause a problem?
will have to change the Y belt too.

fwharris
02-16-2017, 10:07 AM
Have you called LHR to ask?

lynnfrwd
02-16-2017, 10:19 AM
I'm told that is the new design. It is to prevent sawdust from building up.

myshop1044
02-16-2017, 12:30 PM
Sounds good to me, as long it does not allow slippage.

myshop1044
02-16-2017, 03:10 PM
Change out Y tension assb. Very easy, I did Y test and when the truck got to the home Position to start the Y test, it just sat there with the Y belt running for a few sec. then gave me a error E12 0353.
any ideas.

fwharris
02-16-2017, 03:36 PM
Was the belt moving?

myshop1044
02-16-2017, 03:47 PM
Yes , I installed a new y belt too.

fwharris
02-16-2017, 04:20 PM
You might need to put more tension on the belt then. Do yo still have the old one or have an old Z truck? The one on the Z truck is the same.

bergerud
02-16-2017, 04:36 PM
Check the belt clamp on the back of the y truck?

myshop1044
02-16-2017, 04:44 PM
Yes , Y belt clamp Is tight, I even checked the Y motor and gear box to see if there was play among the gears, nothing.
never seen this one before. The truck move easily along rails in the y direction by hand.

bergerud
02-16-2017, 04:53 PM
The belt must be slipping somewhere! When you move the y truck, does the y motor turn? Picture?

myshop1044
02-16-2017, 06:20 PM
Found the problem, It was the belt slipping at the truck, I thought the belt was tight, the clip holding the belt was not
clipped down all the way. The screws were tight. When I pulled really hard while holding the truck I felt the belt slip.
I have every thing really tight and did 2 Y move test and worked perfectly.
Thanks again for the input, it made me go back and take a good look.

Mugsowner
02-16-2017, 08:05 PM
The new pulley makes a lot of sense. The tensioner is just a take up and an idler pulley and has nothing to do with the drive action except to keep belt tension. As saw dust builds up in the belt teeth it is rotated around the idler wheel, if there are teeth on the idler it can cause a few issues like higher belt tension applying extra stress on the drive motor. No teeth no build up, the drive motor will have the toothed sprocket, which is still able to feel the effects of dust build up but has to be toothed to keep the axis true.

bergerud
02-16-2017, 09:54 PM
A consequence may be that the teeth on the belt may get flattened. This is no big deal as those teeth do not make it to the drive sprocket on the y motor during operation. The option, however, to flip the belt when as it wears out may be lost.

A more serious problem may arise if the bushing in the idler wheel freezes up. Instead of causing a y stall and alerting the user to the problem, the belt may just slip on the wheel. This could quickly destroy the belt.

I wonder if the same smooth wheel is to be used on the z belt where dust is more of a problem.

myshop1044
02-16-2017, 10:58 PM
A little history , my last belt did come apart and lost a few teeth and separated. I never notice this until this time that the pulley had wore out around the bushing and was wabbleing too. I thought the belt had wore out or was defective.

Smoken D
02-18-2017, 09:08 AM
Yes, that little clip holding down the belt is very important that it "clicks" when setting. Other wise as you found out, it don't work. Screw can be as tight as can be, but if that clip is not in the correct position, no go.

Nick68
12-03-2017, 12:14 AM
I wonder if the same smooth wheel is to be used on the z belt where dust is more of a problem.

Yes...to the smooth wheel