Add on software

[Glenda]

Does the add on software stuff ever go on sale, or anywhere you can buy previously owned stuff?

Don't have alot of money after buying machine and it seems like everything I want to do is with add on features.

[SteveNelson46]

Does the add on software stuff ever go on sale, or anywhere you can buy previously owned stuff?

Don't have alot of money after buying machine and it seems like everything I want to do is with add on features.

The add-on software does go on sale periodically. They usually send out notifications to the those that are on their email list. You can also check their main website. Items that are on sale are usually posted there. Carvewright does not allow the transfer of licenses on software so we are all kind of in the same boat. Either new or nothing.

[Glenda]

Any you recommend buying?

[SteveNelson46]

Does the add on software stuff ever go on sale, or anywhere you can buy previously owned stuff?

Don't have alot of money after buying machine and it seems like everything I want to do is with add on features.

The best recommendation I can give is to pick a project first and then buy the tools or add-ons that will make the job as easy as possible. It's best to start off with the less complicated projects and work your way up. Then you can buy what you need as your skill increases. There are those who just have to own the latest and greatest of everything. Even if they don't know what it is or how it's used. There isn't anything wrong with this approach if you are willing to spend a lot of time learning the software and the machine in the beginning and have the tenacity to stay with it. Most are overwhelmed, get frustrated, and then they abandon everything. So, start off by making projects or using patterns that are already designed and work your way into making your own.

[aokweld101]

Steve is right on buying software that you don't need, when I bought the machine had to have all the software that carvewright had to offer just to say I had it, I still don't know how to use the DXF software.... but I have it...LOL

[cestout]

I had a little money in my Woodworking account so I finally got DXF importer (MT told me it was useful). The next day I had trainees here and needed it to make a pattern from an image from her quilting software. But to learn the program I imported a DXF scroll design. I did several things with it (I now have all add-ons): 60deg V bit .032 deep around all sections- interesting, undid that and lowered entire image and a .125 deep carved area them puffed each section at .125 (default puff) -more interesting, Urmoved the carved out area faising it back to the surface then inverted all the puffs - chip carving!, whet back to the original and vector carved around each section with the 1/16 cutting bit .125 deep with a .032 inset - same as scroll sawing a 1/8" plywood grill but easier. As for having all add-ons now, I am not getting rich, but my sustainable hobby is remaining sustainable. BTW, I did purchase DXF Importer on sale.
Clint

[normrichards]

I only have 1.87 designer and centerline. So far (several years) I have gotten away with just that. My theory is when I have a paying job and I need an add on to complete it then I will buy it with proceeds from the job. The truth is I have had at least a hundred paid jobs and gotten away with out buying anything else, however I do have to thank those on this forum whose help has made that possible. I do want to upgrade designer and get the rotary jig but I am sticking to my theory.

[Glenda]

Thanks everyone. I think I will be buying the 3d one because I really like the plaque or frame stuff. Still trying to figure out how to import designs and convert them. One step at a time I guess, just not patient, lol

[cestout]

But is it fair to continually have generous pattern designers on the forum make patterns for you for free and you use them to make a profit?
Clint

[Scooby]

I agree Clint. One hand should feed the other. When I make a project I can say "I" made it, if I have had help I give that person credit. (Thanks again Bill) When I get disgusted or stuck I ask for help but I know when I have hit a wall it's time to ask for help. I have spent many hours and $$$ trying to figure everything out. The forum is a good place to learn, share, etc. but not to take advantage of others generosity.

[rmock]

I do not think that anyone who is making projects for profit should ask for free pattern design work on the forum. There are plenty of companies that offer graphics for sale.I believe that If you are going to run a business then learn the tools you need or hire them out.

[Scooby]

Also - I have spent more time learning programs to use with Designer than I have spent running the machine. And I have not made one dime yet for my projects. I have either given them away as gifts or donated to benefits (a way to advertise). So far this has been a hobby and not a moneymaker. I'm crossing my fingers.

[normrichards]

But is it fair to continually have generous pattern designers on the forum make patterns for you for free and you use them to make a profit?
Clint

I have purchased just about every pattern that I use for payed projects If I could not design it myself. I have asked for help on things like police badges which I did off the forum and which were donated projects. If you click on my name and look at my started threads you will see I have not started any threads looking for pattern help. Maybe I worded things wrong, Where this forum has really helped is learning how to do patterns and projects. I guess I should have said that I cannot afford to pay for add on's out of my income and that I can only justify it if I have a way of paying for it. I have amassed a large collection of patterns posted on this forum by others and I do use those when selling things but I do not see how that is taking advantage, I did not request those patterns but I am sure many download them for future reference and use. Sometimes If I like a pattern someone has made, usually Oscar, I may ask him to post it with out the text or like in the puzzle frame I asked about posting the individual puzzle pieces, this was just because I liked the pattern and thought it might come in handy later. This is still a hobby for me and by no means am I doing anything more than paying for my hobby. I am on a fixed income and that is the main reason I cannot afford all the extras and I definitely cannot rush to buy every $200 software carvewright puts out. The only reason I am lucky enough to have this machine is that a friend sold me an extra used one he had and allowed me to pay in payments. I payed those payments by making things and selling them at the flea market. Even the wood was pallets, and wood I collected from the trash dumpsters at construction sites. I am not sure why cestout seems to be picking on me lately I am sorry if I have offended you in any way.

[normrichards]

I do not think that anyone who is making projects for profit should ask for free pattern design work on the forum. There are plenty of companies that offer graphics for sale.I believe that If you are going to run a business then learn the tools you need or hire them out.

Some people are just trying to pay for their hobby or make a little money to supplement their income, not really a business. All though I do not think I have even asked for many patterns to be made I just think this statement is a little harsh. You have asked for patterns on the forum although I do not know if it was for paid work or not.
http://forum.carvewright.com/showthread.php?25645-looking-for-buckboard-and-horse-pattern
(http://forum.carvewright.com/showthread.php?25645-looking-for-buckboard-and-horse-pattern)

[DickB]

The topic of patterns on the forum has come up several times before. I think it should be up to the one posting the pattern to decide how he or she would like the pattern used. A few people when they posted patterns have requested that they not be shared through other means such as a CD, but I don't recall anyone saying not to use it in a project for sale.

Patterns posted on a public forum can be downloaded by anyone for any purpose. Most of us posting patterns and projects recognize this and are perfectly OK with others potentially using them to make a profit. Well I am anyway. If I want my patterns or projects restricted, I put them in the Pattern Depot, although even in the Depot there is no restriction on using the pattern or project in a project for sale.

[lynnfrwd]

The topic of patterns on the forum has come up several times before. I think it should be up to the one posting the pattern to decide how he or she would like the pattern used. A few people when they posted patterns have requested that they not be shared through other means such as a CD, but I don't recall anyone saying not to use it in a project for sale.

Patterns posted on a public forum can be downloaded by anyone for any purpose. Most of us posting patterns and projects recognize this and are perfectly OK with others potentially using them to make a profit. Well I am anyway. If I want my patterns or projects restricted, I put them in the Pattern Depot, although even in the Depot there is no restriction on using the pattern or project in a project for sale.


Agreed. A lot of people on the forum like the challenge of making patterns. Pratice increases their skill level. Some admit that it might not be the best pattern, but enjoy it and some even show a photo of the pattern and ask for donations.

Any patterns or projects on the PatternDepot can be made and the final product sold.

[SteveNelson46]

The topic of patterns on the forum has come up several times before. I think it should be up to the one posting the pattern to decide how he or she would like the pattern used. A few people when they posted patterns have requested that they not be shared through other means such as a CD, but I don't recall anyone saying not to use it in a project for sale.

Patterns posted on a public forum can be downloaded by anyone for any purpose. Most of us posting patterns and projects recognize this and are perfectly OK with others potentially using them to make a profit. Well I am anyway. If I want my patterns or projects restricted, I put them in the Pattern Depot, although even in the Depot there is no restriction on using the pattern or project in a project for sale.

I don't want to start a flame war here but, I'm with you on this one Dick. Posting a pattern or project on a public forum and then trying to restrict it's use is kind of like fighting for peace. It just doesn't make sense. I also believe this train of thought is not conducive to helping others.

[cestout]

I agree, patterns shared on the forum - or projects ( I have shared some here) should be free of restrictions. We use Blender, Paint.NET, and other free ware and can make a profit doing it. The old saying "You give a man a fish and you feed him for day, teach him how to fish and he feeds himself". I like to five suggestions or advice - help - to people asking for help with a pattern or project. This stuff is fun and I want to help others have fun to. Doing it for them steals the fun. -my opinion.
Clint