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kcc2012
12-30-2015, 10:52 PM
I uploaded a pattern and put it on the highest quality which was supposed to take a little over 7 hours but it only took 4 hours to carve. I reloaded the pattern and same thing happened. Any suggestions as what to do.

thank you
Ambrose Stapleton

fwharris
12-30-2015, 11:55 PM
How was the carve quality?

When you use the "flash manger" what does is show for the carve setting for the project?

kcc2012
12-31-2015, 05:01 AM
7936379364I'm just at a loss as to what's going on. I've carved many Icons before and have never encountered this type of problem. The customer wanted it carved really deep I tried to explain that it wont come out very good but he insisted. The subject of the Icon is great the frame, the letters and the accents aren't. I went through a lot of trouble to find the pattern which only one person has it for sale.79365 Im still using 1.187

blhutchens
12-31-2015, 07:48 AM
I have been playing with it some. Can you carve the Icon deep and the accents and border almost as deep (.45) with the height at 100 or less and bit optimization at best?
This will give the Icon full depth with the look of the accents as being behind.

bergerud
12-31-2015, 10:23 AM
I do not understand the problem here. Is it just that the time estimate was so far off or was the carve quality also bad. Did it carve like normal when it should have carved optimal?

(I would use some draft. The frame pattern involves a lot of vertical cuts. This also may be a reason for the poor time estimate.)

kcc2012
12-31-2015, 11:31 AM
The machine worked the way it was supposed to with the exception of the carve time being way off. It was supposed to be 7 hours on optimal which is how I loaded it on the card. It only took 4 hours from start to finish and I have carved it twice with the same results minus the changes I made for the depth of the letters and the angels. Also the frame isn't as good as I hoped for there are way to many spots that stick out really far. Because of the time issues of the carve I didn't know if it was a problem with the card or if its something else. I have never carved anything on normal so I don't know how that looks I usually just carve everything on best. I posted a picture of the carve on my first post.

I do not understand the problem here. Is it just that the time estimate was so far off or was the carve quality also bad. Did it carve like normal when it should have carved optimal?

(I would use some draft. The frame pattern involves a lot of vertical cuts. This also may be a reason for the poor time estimate.)

kcc2012
12-31-2015, 11:36 AM
Im just getting moving for the day so I will play around with it and see how .45 looks.


I have been playing with it some. Can you carve the Icon deep and the accents and border almost as deep (.45) with the height at 100 or less and bit optimization at best?
This will give the Icon full depth with the look of the accents as being behind.

bergerud
12-31-2015, 11:38 AM
It could be that there is nothing really wrong. The time estimate is just an estimate and, in this case, it was pretty far off.

fwharris
12-31-2015, 11:50 AM
It is not a card problem that is causing your change in carve time.

Digitalwoodshop
12-31-2015, 12:03 PM
This is a WAG.... Wild AL Guess.... Any chance this is really a 7 inch's of wood rule problem.... Where it asked you to stay under the rollers and made the actual carving 1/2 the size because the machine took the 7 inches of wood from the end of the board to stay under the rollers...

AL

kcc2012
12-31-2015, 12:43 PM
79368 Thank You very much.

I have no problem if its not a card problem that was the only thing I could think of.

I took blhutchens suggestion and re did the whole thing and had the frame and letters etc at .45 and of course always best bit optimization.

Also took your advice and put a draft on the frame I used medium instead of small because I like the looks better.

I loaded it on the flash at optimal and it gave me a 5 hour carve time this time. Here's keeping my fingers crossed.

AL its not a seven inch rule issue. You taught me that a couple years ago when I messed up a cribbage board by not following that rule. I have followed it ever since. Every time a carve is finished I keep telling myself that I need to learn how to use a sled so Im not wasting so much wood but I have yet to venture into that project.
Now to go cut and tape up a board and make some more saw dust of course after my shop warms up for a bit and getting some breakfast.

I'll check back before I start carving incase anyone else has any other tips or sees a flaw in my plan. Thank you everyone.


It could be that there is nothing really wrong. The time estimate is just an estimate and, in this case, it was pretty far off.

kcc2012
01-01-2016, 12:57 AM
The carving came out really well except the letters they are doable but my design work needs a lot of improvements. I think I figured out the mystery of the time discrepancy. I think it might be due to scaling. I haven't really ever dealt with it and didn't notice the size difference with any of the finished products until the last one when I decided to measure it and it was considerably smaller then the pattern. Thank you all for the help.

Ambrose Stapleton.

bergerud
01-01-2016, 09:22 AM
How could that have happened? The virtual board size in Designer is the same size as the pattern and you say you follow the 7 inch rule. It should not have mattered whether you answered yes or no to stay under the rollers; it should not have even asked you to scale. Did it ask you to scale?

(The fact that it did scale certainly explains the time discrepancy. Al nails it again!)

Digitalwoodshop
01-01-2016, 01:44 PM
How could that have happened? The virtual board size in Designer is the same size as the pattern and you say you follow the 7 inch rule. It should not have mattered whether you answered yes or no to stay under the rollers; it should not have even asked you to scale. Did it ask you to scale?

(The fact that it did scale certainly explains the time discrepancy. Al nails it again!)

Another WAG that gets lucky... :) Wild AL Guess....

kcc2012
01-07-2016, 06:20 PM
How could that have happened? The virtual board size in Designer is the same size as the pattern and you say you follow the 7 inch rule. It should not have mattered whether you answered yes or no to stay under the rollers; it should not have even asked you to scale. Did it ask you to scale?

(The fact that it did scale certainly explains the time discrepancy. Al nails it again!)

After I figured out that the time discrepancy was due to scaling I figured out that my Board was only 11 inches wide and not the required 15 inches it needed and that's why it scaled it.. I had it mixed up in my head when I designed the project. Live and learn.