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cjudas
06-18-2014, 05:30 PM
I was carving a sign last night using centerline and it seemed to be carving VERY deep so I stopped it. Is there a way to adjust the depth? I will try to attach what I was carving so someone can look at it. I have a new machine with 2.007 and was using a 60* bit.
FWMiller
06-18-2014, 06:34 PM
Switch to a 90 degree bit. That will reduce depth while keeping same surface dimensions.
SteveNelson46
06-18-2014, 06:40 PM
I was carving a sign last night using centerline and it seemed to be carving VERY deep so I stopped it. Is there a way to adjust the depth? I will try to attach what I was carving so someone can look at it. I have a new machine with 2.007 and was using a 60* bit.
There is no way to adjust the depth of a centerline cut other than changing the bit. The 60 degree bit will cut deeper than the 90 degree bit. Here's why. All fonts are made up of at least 2 lines. Centerline will travel down the center between the lines and the V bit will plunge to a depth that is deep enough to fill the space between the lines. The 90 degree bit is wider so a shallower depth is needed to fill the space. One trick you can use is to assign the 90 degree bit in the software but, actually use the 60 degree bit. This may help a little. Another way is to use a third party program to convert the text into vector lines. Then you can assign a bit to any depth but, you may have problems with the double lines.
FWMiller
06-18-2014, 07:02 PM
I've tried using a 60 degree bit when the software was asking for a 90 and the results weren't very good. Best bet is to just use the 90.
DocWheeler
06-18-2014, 07:14 PM
Although I do not have that font on my computer, I have some thoughts to add.
The font that the mpc defaulted to showed a large "L" whose body was so wide that it had a raised center, not sure what to do there.
Beyond changing bits you have several options to try:
1. Select Bold or Normal.
2. Tell the machine to use the 60 degree bit but insert the 90 degree bit (makes wider cuts).
3. Tell the machine to use the 90 degree bit but insert the 60 degree bit (makes narrower cuts).
4. Place something (shim) on the board where it touches the board to establish depth so it carves shallower.
5. A combination of some of the above.
mtylerfl
06-18-2014, 07:37 PM
Another workaround...create a very shallow carve region (perhaps no more than 1/64" or so) where the lettering will be. Don't make it too deep and don't use conform vectors (if you have that). The v-carve will be performed as if it is carving on the surface of the board, and result in a shallower carve due to the carve region recess.
This is a crude hack and a "not-highly-recommended" method (by me), since it could result in some parts of letters missing and/or distort the letters too much. But, if you don't go too crazy on the depth of the carve region, it might look fine depending upon the font. No reason not to experiment though. The onscreen preview should give you an idea what it will look like before you waste any wood.
cjudas
06-18-2014, 07:45 PM
I think I will go with the 90 although I think the 60 makes a crisper, more defined letter. Thank you all for the input. There are a total of 6 name signs that are hung in a row I have to do, hope it comes out like I planned. LOL
Digitalwoodshop
06-18-2014, 07:45 PM
I've tried using a 60 degree bit when the software was asking for a 90 and the results weren't very good. Best bet is to just use the 90.
Using a V60 bit when the text was designed in V90 and calls for a V90 will result in letters like a "I" look like two "Y's" one up side down...
How do I know this... :)
AL
CaptainGeorge
08-11-2014, 04:17 PM
I found my answer!!! Thank you to everyone who contacted me. Someone, I'm old and can't remember who it was, said to tell the program one this and use another bit. I thought about that and it made sense, but I took it one step further. I took a couple of the plastic spacers with me to the local "ACE" and bought some tubing the same size, I then cut a piece 1/2" long and put it on the bit. I then let the machine do it's thing and then just before it was going to start carving the letters I lifted the cover and then switched the spacer to a 1/4" spacer and let the machine go. It worked perfectly. I got just what I was looking for. I was surprised someone did not tell me to do that in the beginning. Thanks again to all you who answered.
DickB
08-12-2014, 12:27 PM
Doc's suggestion #4 is equivalent to what you did.
bjbethke
08-12-2014, 03:54 PM
I was carving a sign last night using centerline and it seemed to be carving VERY deep so I stopped it. Is there a way to adjust the depth? I will try to attach what I was carving so someone can look at it. I have a new machine with 2.007 and was using a 60* bit.
don't have the new CW versions, I use version 1.87
The only way I found to change the Centerline caring depth is to change the font in a Font Generator.
You can Dilate or Erode the font image
You need to load the font to see the image, I use this program to make Centerline image carvings
FrankHPerry
08-22-2014, 12:12 PM
I was having an opposite problem. Using Centerline to carve Snell Roundhand Black and needed 0.125" deep but the depth tool wasn't highlighted and would not let me change the depth to any depth. The carve was beautiful, but way too shallow. How do I get more depth?
DickB
08-22-2014, 12:31 PM
This seems to be a hard concept for many to visualize. The depth tool is not highlighted because Centerline sets the depth based on the width of the character strokes. The wider the stroke, the deeper the cut. The font that you have chosen has some very fine, narrow strokes, so the bit has to be very shallow to cut such a fine width line. You can get more depth by using the 60 degree rather than the 90 degree v bit. If you have a CarveTight you can trick the machine by lowering the bit a fraction of an inch after the machine finds the surface and just before v bit carving starts, but it will alter the appearance of the font. Of course you can get more depth by using a font with wider strokes and selecting a bold variant.
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