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robboz4
08-26-2013, 07:18 PM
I was trying to enter a carved Octopus into this year's contest, but had some equipment malfunctions along the way. However, with the help of Support, I'm now back carving.

My idea was to take an object from www.thinkiverse.com (http://www.thinkiverse.com) and use the STL import software and reproduce the object on the Carvewright. The a fore mentioned web site is a great source for 3D printable things for use with 3D printers, laser cutters etc... My choice was the Octopus as I have printed several on my 3D printing machine. As this was to be an experiment also I choose to use plain pine board to see if I got it right. The first attempt I had not fully understood the undercut or curved areas in my slicing. Also as pine chips easily I lost a few tentacles in the process. My second attempt was better where I sliced the lower half of the body of horizontally ( 2 slices for the tentacles), and then sliced the head vertically (7 slices, although one head piece, the center, was not used. I'm not sure why I probably need to recheck the slices and dimensions). I also defaulted the slice to 1/2" as that was the thickness of the board I was going to use. Once again the tentacles didn't survive long. I also lost a few during sanding and gluing. But it was a test in pine and I wanted to get the process right before trying a harder more expensive wood. I have attached several pictures of the result. I used some cherry staining and a few coats of clear varnish as a further experiment on the final glued and sanded test piece. One short cut I did do was that during the pattern lay out, I realized that the head was symmetrical, so I inverted/rotated one side to get the opposite side instead of having a separate pattern.

So things to work on for the next pass:
1) Make stronger ( thicker) tabs to hold the tentacles in place during carving. Might use a Dremel with a cutting blade rather than a Stanley knife next time.
2) Do a better job at gluing so you can't see the joins.
3) Sand the tentacles while still attached to the main board for strength. They came out a bit square so I rounded them more with sandpaper, but lost a few ends as per the picture.
4) Recheck the slicing as I still had a slight mismatch on the tentacle base to top body pieces.



Attached images are:
1) The Octo family. Left is the latest version, Cherry stained Pine; Middle is the plastic printed version from Thingiverse; Right is the first attempt where I did horizontal slicing only. The lower tentacle level was 1/8" an inch thick!!
2) One picture shows the results of gluing and sanding and losing more tentacles.
3) Shots of the carved pieces as they came off the machine.


So any advice on the type of wood or slicing options would be welcome. Once I have what I consider a good carve I'll post the patterns. It might be a while, but it's a fun thing to do!!!

Cheers

Dave

SharonB
08-26-2013, 11:28 PM
A very interesting project. I like the way your mind works.

lawrence
08-27-2013, 06:13 AM
very cool (and my wife thinks, very freaky... she hates octopus)

Thanks for sharing, and I love that you really pushed the machine to its limits (smallness wise)

Lawrence

bergerud
08-27-2013, 09:24 AM
I have some ideas.

If you are not using small draft on the parts with near vertical edges, you might think of using it so the taper of the bit does not cut into the shape.

I would make outlines closer to the shapes so that less wood has to be cut out and the tabs could be smaller.

How about this for the bottom two pieces? Carve the bottom piece and then glue the next board on top of it and then carve them together. You could even have the top carve go deeper so that the glue joint gets cleaned up.

James RS
08-27-2013, 04:09 PM
I saw that on that sight, looks cool

DickB
08-28-2013, 08:27 AM
Use more tabs. Also, instead of the large full-depth regions, try selecting Pierced instead. Add some feather to the pattern to make it easier on the machine and actually carve faster. Try maple instead of pine.

robboz4
09-04-2013, 05:11 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. Just might try that.

robboz4
09-04-2013, 05:13 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. BTW I enjoy your wonderful clock projects. Hope to build one soon.

robboz4
09-04-2013, 05:16 PM
Thanks. Sorry she finds it freaky. Kinda the same response from my wife :-)

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DickB
09-04-2013, 05:40 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. BTW I enjoy your wonderful clock projects. Hope to build one soon.
Thanks! I hope to build another one soon myself. I have a few tweaks to make to the latest wall clock that I submitted to the contest. I would lie to get to that and make it available as a project. The Mystery Clock is my favorite one in the Pattern Depot. I must have built 7 or 8 of them.

Loriblackdog
07-29-2015, 09:35 AM
Hi Dave,
My name is Lori Wellington from Spring Hill, Fl and I also have a carvewright machine, I have a couple of questions for you. I also looked you up in Skype and sent a request thru there also. I would appreciate any help you can give me.

Thanks
Loriblackdog

zan29
07-29-2015, 11:04 AM
I love those types of projects. Awesome!

robboz4
07-29-2015, 11:42 AM
Hi Lori,
what can I help you with?

Loriblackdog
07-30-2015, 03:25 AM
Hi Dave,
I am trying to complete a nautical theme on my back porch, and wanted to carve the attached so it comes out like a stencil that I can paint, myself. I have been trying to get advise, however they usually do it for me, which doesn't help me as I still don't know how to set it up. I was wondering if you could show me how and what you did to get your octopus? I appreciate any help you can send my way.77225
I thank you in advance and appreciate any help.

Loriblackdog:confused:

henry1
07-30-2015, 05:50 AM
Hi Dave,
I am trying to complete a nautical theme on my back porch, and wanted to carve the attached so it comes out like a stencil that I can paint, myself. I have been trying to get advise, however they usually do it for me, which doesn't help me as I still don't know how to set it up. I was wondering if you could show me how and what you did to get your octopus? I appreciate any help you can send my way.77225
I thank you in advance and appreciate any help.

Loriblackdog:confused:
Lori you need the STL software to be able to do that what he did or the 3D you have to update

bergerud
07-30-2015, 09:21 AM
Hi Dave,
I am trying to complete a nautical theme on my back porch, and wanted to carve the attached so it comes out like a stencil that I can paint, myself. I have been trying to get advise, however they usually do it for me, which doesn't help me as I still don't know how to set it up. I was wondering if you could show me how and what you did to get your octopus? I appreciate any help you can send my way.77225
I thank you in advance and appreciate any help.

Loriblackdog:confused:


Can you post the original picture you made the pattern from? To make a stencil, you would have to trace the different parts of the picture so you can make cutouts.

robboz4
07-30-2015, 05:59 PM
Hi Lori,


I started with a 3D model file and used the STL Importer tool as henry1 stated previously. There are a couple of ways to go:

1) Trace a path round the pieces of the image you want to carve out to be the stencil. You can do this in the Carvewright software using the segment tool set.
2) Use a software program such as Inkscape or GIMP ( They are free and duplicate a lot of Photoshop features and functions unless you have Adobe software to help)) and use tools in that to manipulate the image into the stencil you want. You should be able to import that as a pattern and go from there. If you have the DXF import software you can export your image form these software packages into a file DXF can read easily.

Both wil take a long time to do. Even longer if you are not familiar with the graphics tools like Inkscape.

Hope that helps

darth woodilust
05-26-2017, 07:27 AM
Hi! Really cool work. I would like to experiment with this octopus. Can you send me your design? Thanks for the inspiration either way.

robboz4
05-26-2017, 01:23 PM
Hi!
the STL file can be downloaded from here. This was the source of my carve..

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7900

Post some pictures if you get a good carve. I got distracted by other stuff. Might have go back and try again.

darth woodilust
05-28-2017, 08:53 AM
Thanks for the link. I definitely will!