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mtylerfl
04-01-2012, 03:09 PM
Hello,

Here is a preview of the next Project of the Month (for APRIL 2012), the Black Forest Wall Shelf.

This wall shelf project features a leaf and curved wood branch design that draws its inspiration from legendary Black Forest design themes. The decorative shelf is great for displaying favorite knick knacks, a small plant or a special treasured item.

The project uses the 1/16" Carving Bit and the 1/8" Cutting Bit. The overall dimensions of the finished project are about 18"h x 10¼" w x 5½"d.

Main items you will need:

1) The Project Files (included):
• Black_Forest_Panel.mpc
• Shelf-and-Bracket.mpc

2) Boards with the following dimensions:
Black Forest Panel: .75" x 11" x 25”
Shelf and Bracket: .75" x 6" x 22"

(NOTE: Do not use boards that are smaller than specified above, or if you are using a sled, you can subtract 7" from the length of the board and have the sled provide the extra 7" required)

3) Five #6 wood screws, countersink bit

4) Sandpaper, drill, wood glue, epoxy, stain or paint and clear finish

5) A Dremel-type rotary tool with assorted sanding wheels and bits to sand small details and speed up preparation for finishing.

Apply stain/paint and clearcoat of your choice. Here’s what I used on my Black Forest Wall Shelf made from Select Pine:

• Minwax Red Oak stain #215
• Several coats Krylon acrylic clear (spray)

Smoken D
04-01-2012, 04:48 PM
Now we're talking. Really looks great Michael, great job!

easybuilt
04-01-2012, 05:03 PM
That is awesome Michael! I am looking forward to completing it.

ladjr
04-01-2012, 05:26 PM
I'm looking forward to starting it.

Leo

ladjr
04-01-2012, 05:34 PM
When does it go out.

Thanks

Leo

mtylerfl
04-01-2012, 06:44 PM
When does it go out.

Thanks

Leo

Thank you, everyone.

Hi Leo,
It will go public during the first week of April.

lynnfrwd
04-01-2012, 08:52 PM
Another fantastic POM, Michael!


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LittleRedWoodshop
04-01-2012, 09:48 PM
Very nice ...

rickyz
04-02-2012, 02:20 PM
hope it is available soon, need to make one for a wedding gift on sunday.... looks awesome as always. I need to renew my pom subscription. do I have to wait for it to become available before I do that so I don't get the industrial clock twice?

lynnfrwd
04-02-2012, 02:58 PM
hope it is available soon, need to make one for a wedding gift on sunday.... looks awesome as always. I need to renew my pom subscription. do I have to wait for it to become available before I do that so I don't get the industrial clock twice?

I am getting it out today. Hold off on activating your new POM until I release it.

Lynn

lynnfrwd
04-02-2012, 03:12 PM
I will let you know when.

rickyz
04-02-2012, 03:20 PM
ok. cool. thanks for the heads up....

lynnfrwd
04-02-2012, 03:23 PM
Okay, the projects have begun going out to the Project of the Month Subscribers. Enjoy!

Remember, it is now also available for non-POM subscribers, as well....just not $10; like they got!

rickyz
04-03-2012, 07:55 PM
just renewed my pom subscription and can't wait to carve this one out... still need to finish industrial clock from last month but the projects have been very good.... and for ten bucks each, can't beat it....

ladjr
04-03-2012, 08:22 PM
Lynn

I hope you don't mind, but I try to learn from others projects. I can not find the actual leaf. It seems like you designed around them. That is cool. However why would you do that. If I can ask.

It is a great projects

Thanks

Leo

lynnfrwd
04-03-2012, 08:27 PM
Leo. I don't make them. Michael Tyler makes them for us.


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mtylerfl
04-04-2012, 09:38 AM
Lynn

I hope you don't mind, but I try to learn from others projects. I can not find the actual leaf. It seems like you designed around them. That is cool. However why would you do that. If I can ask.

It is a great projects

Thanks

Leo

Hi Leo,

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I'll be glad to answer whatever I can, but need a little clarification, if you please. (Bear in mind I'm only on my second cup of coffee as I write this!)

AskBud
04-04-2012, 09:50 AM
Hi Leo,

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I'll be glad to answer whatever I can, but need a little clarification, if you please. (Bear in mind I'm only on my second cup of coffee as I write this!)I think he is looking for your leaf patterns.
AskBud
http://www.carvebuddy.com/searchcarvebuddy.php?q=leaf

AskBud
04-04-2012, 12:18 PM
Lynn

I hope you don't mind, but I try to learn from others projects. I can not find the actual leaf. It seems like you designed around them. That is cool. However why would you do that. If I can ask.

It is a great projects

Thanks

LeoAs I re-read your question, I see you are trying to understand some of our pattern making concepts.
As patterns are developed, the pattern maker may add or delete items. This is done to provide the end user with a variety of options. One specific item or the combined complex pattern. In the case of this project you probably find the complex pattern rather than each item as a separate pattern.

You may not break out the items of someones complex pattern, because it is locked and belongs to the maker.
As a pattern vendor, I break out specific items within some patterns to develop a 2nd, 3rd or more, additional patterns for the end users. Some other vendors do the same. For example, as you check the Pattern Depot, you'll find where I offer a Frame, Plaque, and possibly other segments of those renderings as a way to assist you in getting just what you want.

If you make your own patterns, you will be able to accomplish the same thing. To see how we might make a complex pattern, click the "Download" link in my signature section below and review the lesson titled "Making a Complex pattern". The Tip and Trick, Issue #1, on Layering, will be very helpful as well. The Tips and Tricks link is further down the same link.
AskBud

ladjr
04-04-2012, 01:57 PM
I'm not looking for the leaf. I was trying to understand how you made it. I thought that you didn't use a pattern and simply design around it. So if I understand you did use the leaf pattern but it is locked.

I just wondered if you were creating the leaf without using a pattern, because your result is great.

Thanks for your explanation.

Leo

mtylerfl
04-05-2012, 09:08 AM
I'm not looking for the leaf. I was trying to understand how you made it. I thought that you didn't use a pattern and simply design around it. So if I understand you did use the leaf pattern but it is locked.

I just wondered if you were creating the leaf without using a pattern, because your result is great.

Thanks for your explanation.

Leo

Hi Leo,

I modeled everything in the Aspire software. I modeled the leaves and the curved branches using vectors, two-rail sweeps and rails. I created the "v-carves" of the leaf veins using a ToolPath Preview projected onto the surface of the leaves, then created a component from the toolpath preview.

After the components were created, I arranged everything, adjusted so the parts merged well, did slight sculpting here and there, baked everything together and saved it out as an STL. I did not save out the individual leaves, but I could always do that at some point and place them as individual patterns on the CarveBuddy and CW websites. Something to think about...later.

I imported the STL via the CarveWright STL Importer and converted it to a PTN file. I also exported the main vectors as DXF from Aspire, then imported the DXF vectors via the CarveWright DXF Importer. This was done so I could use the original vectors for creating carve regions, drills and cutouts on the final project. Making full use of all the tools at my disposal has really streamlined the entire process for creating projects. The CarveWright STL and DXF Importers made my life so much easier!!!

Here are a couple screenshots from the Aspire software...

mtylerfl
04-05-2012, 09:36 AM
While I'm at it, I thought I would also offer a sneak-peek into my feeble mind on an alternative I considered for creating the elements for this project...

The photo below shows a hand-sculpted leaf I made from Sculpy clay. I drew a leaf, took a lump of clay and used the cutout drawing as a guide to forming the leaf. I have been experimenting with the NextEngine laser scanner, and my thought was, "I'll hand sculpt all the components, scan them and convert them to PTN's".

The same process could have easily been done using the CarveWright Scanning Probe, but I wanted to goof around with the laser scanner as part of my learning process in that arena. Unfortunately, I was running out of time, so I abandoned the idea and just went straight into Aspire to create the models instead. I still have a lot to learn about laser scanning and decided to put that off for a bit until I am better caught up with more pressing tasks.

AskBud
04-05-2012, 09:46 AM
Michael,
You're a true artist and innovator! I, for one, bow to your use of talent.
AskBud

rcdages
04-05-2012, 10:42 AM
Michael,
You're a true artist and innovator! I, for one, bow to your use of talent.
AskBud

I agree with you Bud, Michael is a talented artist. That is a 100 times over and over.

ladjr
04-05-2012, 12:11 PM
Hi Leo,

I modeled everything in the Aspire software. I modeled the leaves and the curved branches using vectors, two-rail sweeps and rails. I created the "v-carves" of the leaf veins using a ToolPath Preview projected onto the surface of the leaves, then created a component from the toolpath preview.

After the components were created, I arranged everything, adjusted so the parts merged well, did slight sculpting here and there, baked everything together and saved it out as an STL. I did not save out the individual leaves, but I could always do that at some point and place them as individual patterns on the CarveBuddy and CW websites. Something to think about...later.

I imported the STL via the CarveWright STL Importer and converted it to a PTN file. I also exported the main vectors as DXF from Aspire, then imported the DXF vectors via the CarveWright DXF Importer. This was done so I could use the original vectors for creating carve regions, drills and cutouts on the final project. Making full use of all the tools at my disposal has really streamlined the entire process for creating projects. The CarveWright STL and DXF Importers made my life so much easier!!!

Here are a couple screenshots from the Aspire software...

Thank you for that input. I found it very interesting, and a great learning experince. I think it is great to see how you creat something.

Thanks again.

Leo

Smoken D
04-05-2012, 12:21 PM
wow! And wow again!

mtylerfl
04-05-2012, 01:14 PM
Well, I don't know quite what to say except Thank You All for your encouragement. I really do enjoy making the projects for you and that's pretty much what "drives" me. If you like, I can try to include some similar short snippets of how a project was created in the future. Thanks again.

jpaluck
04-05-2012, 05:03 PM
Michael,

VERY nice design..your starting to cheat with the scanner eh..lol ( joking w ya). I love designs like this..the whole acanthus leaf / victorian classic woodworking design. I know they are FAR from simple to model and just a hair time consuming. Looks great!!!

mtylerfl
04-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Michael,

VERY nice design..your starting to cheat with the scanner eh..lol ( joking w ya). I love designs like this..the whole acanthus leaf / victorian classic woodworking design. I know they are FAR from simple to model and just a hair time consuming. Looks great!!!

Hi John,

Thanks! I am really hoping I CAN 'cheat' with the scanning! Looking at the hundreds and hundreds of those Victorian plaster cast molds I am currently modeling into the 21st century, I could sure use a shortcut or two! I am targeting this summer for the debut of the first in the series of the Joachim Jungwirth collection of Victorian patterns/models! (although I may "sneak" some more out at CarveBuddy before the official announcement)

ladjr
04-05-2012, 05:15 PM
Well, I don't know quite what to say except Thank You All for your encouragement. I really do enjoy making the projects for you and that's pretty much what "drives" me. If you like, I can try to include some similar short snippets of how a project was created in the future. Thanks again.

Please do it helps me at least learn. I appreciate your work and contributions.

Leo

rickyz
04-23-2012, 08:44 PM
I love this project.... a lot of people I know love it too... i've noticed that the outside cutpath seems to have a slower setting than most cutouts i've encountered... is there a trick to this? just curious. I really like the slower speed... make me cringe a little less when i'm using the 1/8th cutting bit... thanks

mtylerfl
04-23-2012, 09:17 PM
I love this project.... a lot of people I know love it too... i've noticed that the outside cutpath seems to have a slower setting than most cutouts i've encountered... is there a trick to this? just curious. I really like the slower speed... make me cringe a little less when i'm using the 1/8th cutting bit... thanks

Hi Ricky,

Thank you! I'm so glad you like the project!

I set the Cut Path as I usually do (Max Pass .3", 2 Tabs per ft, 3/16" Tab height, Min. 4 Tabs). I did not notice whether the cutting speed was slower when I ran my own Black Forest shelf, but I "multi-task" when projects are running, so I may not have been paying close enough attention. Perhaps the cut was slower since the path takes a lot of "pauses and turns" around the irregular shape of this particular project.

Skyhawk
07-22-2012, 09:31 PM
I gave the first one that I made to my mother for Mothers day...so I made myself a new one...came out pretty nice!

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SharonB
07-22-2012, 10:27 PM
Jim... that certainly came out nice. I can see why a person would want to make one for themselves... no matter how many they make for others.

ladjr
07-23-2012, 12:14 AM
Very nice job Jim well done

CNC Carver
07-23-2012, 06:30 AM
Nice gift to yourself. I like the finish on that. Great work.

badbert
07-23-2012, 07:46 AM
Are those SharonB's paints? The finish looks fantastic! Excellent work!

easybuilt
07-23-2012, 07:53 AM
Beautiful workmanship Jim. Love your colors!

Skyhawk
07-23-2012, 11:48 AM
Thanks everyone! The paints used are simple hobby paint purchased from Walmart...I coated it with poly first, then added the paint...followed by another coat of poly...Then covered the entire piece with cherry gel stain...using a rag I removed most of it which muted the colors and made it look more natural! Then another coat of poly to seal it in!

b.sumner47
07-23-2012, 11:05 PM
Well done, different. , To the mother-law, first one, Huh.


Capt Barry

mtylerfl
07-24-2012, 07:19 AM
Jim, that is really beautiful finish work! Such an excellent job. Congrats!