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Andrew H
07-20-2010, 11:38 AM
Hello Everyone
I am new here and just signed up last saturday and I do hope that
I am posting this question in the right area.

I do not own a CarveWright just yet but I am intrigued by all of the
possibilites of this machine and figured I could start learning about
the CraveWright well before I buy one. I already understand that the 3D probe
is as sharp as a dart and would scratch the finish of the pin I have.
I can make a resin copy that holds the same detail of the original so that could be scanned

So I wanted to ask :confused: :)
How small of an item can be scanned wit the 3D probe
and then after scanning can the item be enlarged.
there is some text in relief on the pin, this text would be changed
The pin is 1 7/8 inch tall by 1 3/8 wide
and about as thick as a half dollar at its thickest point.
there are a lot of high and low details and the thickness does vary

And then I would like to enlarge this design so it
would fit nicely on an 11 X 14 inch wooden plaque.
as the final piece would be done in a cold cast bronze finish

Thank you all for your time
Feel free to ask any questions

mtylerfl
07-20-2010, 11:54 AM
Hi Andrew,

Depending on the detail, you can scan the pin...be aware that fine detail may not pick up well and/or may not enlarge well. One of the quirks about working with relief patterns is that they lose detail when enlarged...you can restore some of that detail by increasing the Height/Depth of the pattern.

Often, for smaller items, it can be best to model it from scratch in a software program (Aspire or ArtCAM come to mind). That way, you can model it at a final size closer to what you will be carving, and have total control of detail and depth.

I'd say, go ahead and scan your pin to see how it comes out! Also, you may want to post a good, clear photo of the pin so we can see what you're dealing with.

Andrew H
07-20-2010, 11:08 PM
I will post a pic of this pin as soon as possible
I do not own a carveright machine right now, so I cannot scan the pin my self.

TIMCOSBY
07-21-2010, 04:06 AM
also the larger you enlarge the flatter the pattern gets if that makes any sense. something that small i would think about 3x magnification would be max to retain a good pattern.

Andrew H
07-21-2010, 10:54 AM
Ok, here are some pictures of the pin I am talking about

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/1pinfront.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/3pinsize.jpg
Taken from the side to show the detail a bit better

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/2pinanglel.jpg
The circle was traced around a silver dollar for and idea of the size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/4pinthickness.jpg
Two silver dollars next to pin for an idea of the thickness

Thanks for everyones input and time

Andrew H
07-21-2010, 11:02 AM
Here are the last two pics from my last post, as the system will not allow more then 4 pics per post :confused:
I forgot that I had this, Would art work like this work better to do the carving.
It's a PNG image that's 377KB in size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/2e88280163-1.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/1pinfront.jpg

One of my other hobbies is collecting weapons, that are not in the real world but from video games
How hard would it be for the carvewright to make this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/AR_Right.jpg

As I mentioned, I do not own a carvewright at the moment and it will be awhile before I do
but I still want to know what will and will not work.

Thanks for everyone's time and input

Andrew

bjbethke
07-21-2010, 04:13 PM
Here are the last two pics from my last post, as the system will not allow more then 4 pics per post :confused:
I forgot that I had this, Would art work like this work better to do the carving.
It's a PNG image that's 377KB in size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/2e88280163-1.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/1pinfront.jpg

One of my other hobbies is collecting weapons, that are not in the real world but from video games
How hard would it be for the carvewright to make this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/AR_Right.jpg

As I mentioned, I do not own a carvewright at the moment and it will be awhile before I do
but I still want to know what will and will not work.

Thanks for everyone's time and input

Andrew
Patterns can be made from images, but they will not look like a true 3d carving like you can make with the probe. I use Photoshop and the software that comes with the probe. I posted the MPC file, image from the Pattern Editor and an image of what the carving would look like.

TIMCOSBY
07-21-2010, 06:50 PM
the guns a peice of cake if you have the stl model and the stl add on software. take a look at the space ship in the stl part of the forum. if you want to cast the pin and send it to me i will scan it and send to you. pm me if you want. it looks as if it will make a pretty good pattern.

eelamb
07-21-2010, 09:48 PM
To answer your question, yes the weapon can be made. Here is a video game weapon I happen to have in 3d and created a pattern from.

Andrew H
07-21-2010, 10:42 PM
the guns a peice of cake if you have the stl model and the stl add on software. take a look at the space ship in the stl part of the forum. if you want to cast the pin and send it to me i will scan it and send to you. pm me if you want. it looks as if it will make a pretty good pattern.

I guess I will add this to my learning curve

How do you get the stl model ???? please explain :confused: :)

STL part of the forum ??? would be under what heading

Thanks Andrew

Andrew H
07-21-2010, 10:50 PM
Patterns can be made from images, but they will not look like a true 3d carving like you can make with the probe. I use Photoshop and the software that comes with the probe. I posted the MPC file, image from the Pattern Editor and an image of what the carving would look like.

Thank you for showing me what the design would look like when carved
I figured that the pattern made from a picture or art work would be Flat
and that would work also with want I want to do.
But I would not need the design already in a frame. If that makes sense

Thank you for your time.........

I need to buy me a CarveWright machine !!!!!!! :mrgreen:

bjbethke
07-22-2010, 02:03 AM
Thank you for showing me what the design would look like when carved
I figured that the pattern made from a picture or art work would be Flat
and that would work also with want I want to do.
But I would not need the design already in a frame. If that makes sense

Thank you for your time.........
The image can be outlined and cut out.
I need to buy me a CarveWright machine !!!!!!! :mrgreen:

The image can be outlined and cut out.

Andrew H
07-22-2010, 09:44 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/405thwoodcutoutplaqueversion.jpg

That would be perfect.

I work at a printing company and many years ago one of the graphic artists used to do art work for me
then a polymer plate could be made (think of a very large rubber stamp with out the handle)
(each red square is one inch)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/WallPlaque1.jpg
I would trim the edges off the polymer and make a mold then cast the design in a cold cast medium.
This is a sprayed silicone rubber mold
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/finishedSSTmold.jpg
And the cold cast aluminum copy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Post%20on%20CarveWright/SSTPlaque.jpg

spray mold being made link to video
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v519/mantaray7/Videos/?action=view&current=Smooth-OnSprayJrMakingofSSTWallPlaq.flv

I thank everyone for their help and input.......

TIMCOSBY
07-23-2010, 01:36 AM
I guess I will add this to my learning curve

How do you get the stl model ???? please explain :confused: :)

STL part of the forum ??? would be under what heading

stl's are made with 3d programs like zbrush, moi silo etc. there are a lot of free models floating around on the net.

under the software page of the forum there are sub catagories for stl, dxf etc.

Thanks Andrew


stl's are made with 3d programs like zbrush, moi silo etc. there are a lot of free models floating around on the net.

under the software page of the forum there are sub catagories for stl, dxf etc.

Andrew H
07-23-2010, 11:48 AM
I guess what I am asking is how do you get the stl model from the source
such as the game that the rifle came from.

Also could something the size of a helmet be made on the CarveWright
in right and left half's.






I guess I will add this to my learning curve

How do you get the stl model ???? please explain :confused: :)

STL part of the forum ??? would be under what heading

Thanks Andrew