stuck in bit changing loop

[whitesnstripes]

New to my machine, but have completely read the manual and watched video I could find. I perused about every forum I could find and unable to find an answer.

I purchased my system used which already had plans for a rod holder installed on the card. I loaded the board and went through the series of prompts. I am now stuck in a loop of asking me to install the 1/8 inch bit. It goes through all the checks and homing, then returns to the center asking me to install it again? Its firmly seated, its indeed the 1/8 inch bit, machine has been blown, cleaned and lubricated properly.

Any suggestions?

Scottie D in Marble Falls, TX

[gwhiz]

Verify that the touch plate on the far side of the machine from the keypad swivels out and that the bit touches it during the process. When I had this happen the touch plate was blocked by sawdust and wasn't swiveling out to meet the bit.

-George

[Icutone2]

Also check the cut motor wires are out of the way. or the z truck can not move far enough to push out the bit plate.
Lee

[Kenm810]

With the machine turned off for a few moments,
Move the "Z" Truck alone the "Y" Axis Rail by hand
to the far side of the Machine away from the Key Pad,
to see if the flipper touch Plate comes out as the truck engages it.
As Posted watch for any obstacles the truck may hit along its way.

[Router-Jim]

New to my machine, but have completely read the manual and watched video I could find. I perused about every forum I could find and unable to find an answer.

I purchased my system used which already had plans for a rod holder installed on the card. I loaded the board and went through the series of prompts. I am now stuck in a loop of asking me to install the 1/8 inch bit. It goes through all the checks and homing, then returns to the center asking me to install it again? Its firmly seated, its indeed the 1/8 inch bit, machine has been blown, cleaned and lubricated properly.

Any suggestions?

Scottie D in Marble Falls, TX


There is another possibility. Pay special attention what the prompts are stating. The project may have been designed using different 1/8" bits. For example the 1/8" ballnose and the 1/8" straight. The machine will ask you to load each of the bits that are required for the project. Since you did not design what is on the card, you have no way of knowing what bits were used in the design.

I hope your problem is that simple.

Jim

[Icutone2]

Jim, Bit style shouldn't matter the machine is looking for a set length not bit.
At least that is how it was explained to me.
Lee

[Icutone2]

Ken, Great pics mine has never looked that tight to the corner. Will need to fix that tonight Thanks.
Lee

[Router-Jim]

Jim, Bit style shouldn't matter the machine is looking for a set length not bit.
At least that is how it was explained to me.
Lee

That is incorrect. In the initial startup the machine is establishing bit length. That is why it is asking to load the different bits. Once the project starts and you are prompted to load the next bit then it is looking for the pre-established bit length.

[whitesnstripes]

troubleshooted exactly as described and everything seemed to be working as it should. no binding in ribbon cable, nor hesitancy/obstructions along rail. Plate is rotating as it should and bit is touching it while homing.

Is there a way to move the plans from the card to the sw to verify bits? Wuttin' able to figure that one out.

Thanks Guys!

Scottie

[gwhiz]

That is incorrect. In the initial startup the machine is establishing bit length. That is why it is asking to load the different bits. Once the project starts and you are prompted to load the next bit then it is looking for the pre-established bit length.

Lee's point is that the CW has no way of knowing which bit you really loaded. Load a cutting bit instead of a carving bit and the CW will establish that length and go on it's merry way using the wrong bit. It won't know to stop you and cause the problem that Scottie is having.

[Router-Jim]

The point that I was getting at is that Scottie is new and when the machine asked for the different bits he may well think it is caught in a loop when it really isn't. He has no way of knowing what bits are used in the design because he didn't design it himself and it only exists on his card.

IMHO the best thing for Scottie to do would be to design a simple two bit carve of his own, upload it to the card and then try it. If the machine asks for more than the two bits then he will know if he really has a problem.

[jaroot]

I also found that if the bit is not completely seated in the QC it will keep asking for the bit over and over.

[Digitalwoodshop]

IF the bit flag does not come out and the bit does not touch the bit plate, then it will give you the load message over and over....

If the bit flag does not come out far enough, it can be many things including the wires from the right cover switch in the way. The Z Motor hits the wires unless the wires are tucked into the sweet spot in the corner.

So the bit is going past the NOT extended bit plate and thinks that there is NO bit installed.

AL

[Icutone2]

Thanks Al that is what i was trying to say. Not saying that the bit that is required for said job is not known. The job on the card can not be seen in the design software. mabe as said before create n new one and try it out.
Just my thoughts.
Lee

[whitesnstripes]

Incredible Forum. Thank you guys. I'm certain the plans called for something other than the bits I had on hand. I was able to pull up another plan which was already loaded and used the 1/16th bit to carve away.

I'm not sure how many hours are on the machine, but seeing some wear and play on the bit adapters. This may be also affecting the chuck. I am leaning towards purchasing the rock chuck with more bit adapters and carving bits. Any suggestions how to pair these purchases to get the most for my money? Eventually I'll be shopping for a 3D Scanning probe to allow full functionality of my machine.

Thanks to everyone for the trouble shooting help and crash course into the Carvewright world!

Scottie in Marble Falls, Texas