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    Ike,

    The vent in the bottom of the Machine, the side vent, and the rear port (PVC)
    all go directly into the upper Down Draft Chamber of the Cabinet.
    The PVC tubing travels freely up and down with the top of the Machine
    through the surface of the DD Cabinet.
    There is some noise reduction, but it was not really intended for that purpose.
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    [QUOTE=Kenm810;78963]Ike,

    The vent in the bottom of the Machine, the side vent, and the rear port (PVC)
    all go directly into the upper Down Draft Chamber of the Cabinet.
    The PVC tubing travels freely up and down with the top of the Machine
    through the surface of the DD Cabinet.
    There is some noise reduction, but it was not really intended for that purpose.[/QUOTE

    So both pipes the side port (black) and the back port (white) replacing the dust bag both are attached to a duct collector? I don't see where you have a down draft? Is it under the machine where the long opening is located?

    Ike

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    My DD Cabinet is a mobile self-contained unit,
    I can roll it to where I want plug it in, and carve.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails First DD Chamber.jpg   DD Cabinet Top.jpg   DD Cabinet 1a.jpg  
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    Ken
    I also like your air line system, but doesn't that red pvc air hose create static electricity?
    later Daniel
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    Thumbs up No Static

    Hi Dan,

    Actually no static electricity at all, it even surprised me.
    I've checked several times while carving different materials,
    SignFoam, Cast Acrylic, Corian, and of course several type of wood,
    but found no signs of static. Possibly because the pvc vent line
    is not mechanically connected to the blower,
    but slides up and down freely when the machines top
    is cranked in either direction while setting up the machine
    to carve a project. Also no Problems with compressed air lines so far.
    I do remember watching the little wood chips and dust dancing on the
    black plastic collar and muffler bag before I switched to the PVC tubing.
    Last edited by Kenm810; 01-29-2009 at 08:28 PM.
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    Ken, so is a vacuuming or blowing sytem? I would think where the dust bag attached you are not blowing it back into the cut motor? With the blower motor it looks you are blowing the dust out through the botom vent?

    Ike

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    Default My DD Cabinet

    It's a Negative Pressure System,
    it draws all the dust and chips down through all 3 vents from the machine to the first chamber,
    it has twin 2 micron filters to trap everything in the second chamber,
    then the 1200cfm of filtered air is blown out the front of the cabinet's third chamber where three speed blower is mounted.
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    Last edited by Kenm810; 01-29-2009 at 07:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenm810 View Post
    It's a Negative Pressure System,
    it draws all the dust and chips down through all 3 vents from the machine to the first chamber,
    it has twin 2 micron filters to trap everything in the second chamber,
    then the 1200cfm of filtered air is blown out the front of the cabinet's third chamber where three speed blower is mounted.
    I sorry Ken I must have fried my brain on pain pills! So would it be like comparing it to an air filtration sytem ? If I get this and please bare with me, like an AFS it uses outside air pulling the air with a blower using filters on 3 sides .

    Then where do the pvc pipes go? Do they connect to anything? If I remember you said they hang? I assume the chambers need to be air tight to create a suction? I see the filter, but is there a vent on the outside of chamber 2?

    Ike
    Last edited by Ike; 01-29-2009 at 11:30 PM.

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    In Effect it is a an air filtering system, the make-up air (Shop air) is drawn into the machine through the slot that the flex-shaft enters the machine and the openings in the front and rear of the machine that your projects ride on the traction belts in the “X” axis, plus the slotted vents at the top rear of the machine. The air rushing into the machine picks up the dust and chips and pulls them down in to the first chamber which makes up the top level of the DD Cabinet by way of the slot in the bottom of the machine (1.), the white 1 ½” PVC pipe connected to the muffler port (2.), and the black 3 ½” styrene elbow mounted through the side of my machine (3.). Then the dust and chips are trapped and held in the second chamber by the twin filters mounted between the second and third chamber where the blower and motor are mounted. The filtered air is then blown back into the shop through the large opening in the front of the DD Cabinet. Even at it's highest speed, you can't hear it running when the Machine is carving.
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    Last edited by Kenm810; 01-30-2009 at 08:22 AM.
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