I just started playing around with this. In the new corel there is a texture called relief sculpture that is what i used on the picture below. The one picture i got off the net the other I did no adjustment to it i just wanted to see what the worst would be letting the program do all the work. It seems like you could really tweak this a lot to work well with the patterns for us. What do you all think. Has anyone used this. This could be a really easy way to make some patterns.