Rock Chuck Problems ?? No Problems !!

[Digitalwoodshop]

As far as I am concerned, the Rock is a MUST HAVE.....

Here is just one place to buy the locking rings.

Check your Router Bit supplier...

http://www.westerntool.com/product.htm?pid=502775 1/4 inch

http://www.westerntool.com/product.htm?pid=502776 1/2 inch

Only .99 cents each....

AL

[jjack9485]

Michael,

I don’t understand why you are so protective of the QC, If its so great why is LHR going to the “Heavy-Duty” chuck upgrade? Are you saying the Rock is not a heavy duty chuck? Its obvious in that majority thinks the QC is the biggest weak link in the CW design. I know that you are close to the LHR folks and you would probably be hesitant in giving a negative comment on the well known problem QC. Its funny that a third party had to come up with a chuck that’s actually an improvement and it works. As far as the”bit mounting issue”, I don’t use any spacers, home-made sleeves, collars etc.. I simply insert the bit and leave about ¾” showing and the V bits just insert them all the way touching the chuck, can’t be any simpler than that. Michael I am not downing the Carvewright , I think it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, I use it four to five days a week. I just think the QC is a piece of crap and not afraid to say so. I bet it won’t be long that LHR will discontinue the QC in its entirety . Do you think if there was a poll on the QC vrs the Rock, the QC would have the most favorable comments ?

Its just funny that since I installed the Rock, that I have had absolutely no problems what so ever over, 157 hours and not even a check close door.

Jack

[DocWheeler]

Jack,

I'd like to make a comment here. I think that the first person that I contacted here was Ron since he was about the closest to me, we have talked by phone and email several times. I have also talked with Michael, and I must say that both of them are real gentlemen.

I also have two machines, one with the ROCK and one with a QC that has been balanced. Neither machine vibrates now.

In my opinion, Michael would be hard pressed to say much "bad" about anything, that is the way he lives his life and I respect that (I'm not so much that way).

If any of us was fortunate enough to have received a fairly balanced QC on our machines, we would wonder what the fuss was all about - perhaps Michael is one such person. I really like my balanced QC for simplicity.

For me, the QC is simpler to use, but mainly because of physical limitations. I think that the ROCK is a quality product by a quality individual.

Nuf said.

[Rapidroy]

I'm a new RC user, what are the tip to locking ring measurements for the bits and router bits.

[dbfletcher]

I'm a new RC user, what are the tip to locking ring measurements for the bits and router bits.

Personally, I would reccomend using the rock with out collars of any type at first. If the measurement issue becomes a problem, then look at collars. I have a rock on both of my machines.. and at first I tried the "vinyl tubing & super glue" collar.. then i bought the locking ring collars... today, I dont even bother with collars. Now that I realize the the first measurement the machine takes isnt really all that important. When the machine indicates the bit bit depth is't matching the first measurment, I just hit (2 continue) and it goes on its merry way. I haven't had any issues with doing this so far.

Thanks,

Doug Fletcher

[Pratyeka]

Personally, I would reccomend using the rock with out collars of any type at first. If the measurement issue becomes a problem, then look at collars. I have a rock on both of my machines.. and at first I tried the "vinyl tubing & super glue" collar.. then i bought the locking ring collars... today, I dont even bother with collars. Now that I realize the the first measurement the machine takes isnt really all that important. When the machine indicates the bit bit depth is't matching the first measurment, I just hit (2 continue) and it goes on its merry way. I haven't had any issues with doing this so far.

Thanks,

Doug Fletcher

Which version of software are you running on the machine?

[dbfletcher]

Which version of software are you running on the machine?

Currently 1.153 on both. But didnt have problems with 1.152 either. Now 1.15 was another story all together!

Doug Fletcher

[WRW]

Hi Doug
I have been doing the same thing with my bits, I did however see a difference today. I ran the same project twice with the same board thickness. When carving the center line text, using 90 V bit on both projects, the second project carved far deeper. My question is, has this happened to you?
Thanks

[mtylerfl]

Michael,

I don’t understand why you are so protective of the QC, If its so great why is LHR going to the “Heavy-Duty” chuck upgrade? Are you saying the Rock is not a heavy duty chuck? Its obvious in that majority thinks the QC is the biggest weak link in the CW design. I know that you are close to the LHR folks and you would probably be hesitant in giving a negative comment on the well known problem QC. Its funny that a third party had to come up with a chuck that’s actually an improvement and it works. As far as the”bit mounting issue”, I don’t use any spacers, home-made sleeves, collars etc.. I simply insert the bit and leave about ¾” showing and the V bits just insert them all the way touching the chuck, can’t be any simpler than that. Michael I am not downing the Carvewright , I think it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, I use it four to five days a week. I just think the QC is a piece of crap and not afraid to say so. I bet it won’t be long that LHR will discontinue the QC in its entirety . Do you think if there was a poll on the QC vrs the Rock, the QC would have the most favorable comments ?

Its just funny that since I installed the Rock, that I have had absolutely no problems what so ever over, 157 hours and not even a check close door.

Jack

Hello Jack,

Thank you for your comments. I indeed do consider the Rock as a "heavy duty" chuck, and well thought out, with the possible exception of bit mounting. It's just not very appealing to me to fiddle with sleeves and collars when I can simply and easily snap a bit in and out of my perfectly satisfactory QC's.

I realize that some folks have had a good deal of frustration with their QC. I do have some ideas as to why they have and why I do not, but suffice to say that I have had no personal reason to make me think that the QC is not a good design. On two different machines - they have always performed beautifully, so I really don't have any reason to change to anything else for myself.

Having said that, I DO look forward to a new "heavy duty" (my words, not LHR's) chuck coming from LHR. I will probably get one - if for nothing else - to run some extensive tests with it before it goes to mass market. I think it will be a very nice upgrade for those who use their machines as much as folks like AL does! (he's put his machines through more work than anyone else that I know of!)

Someone asked why it was taking so long. Well, liability for one. The developers must consider every scenario (mistakes) they can think of that a user might do or not do so that the product is proven safe before release. Another issue is that parts have to be sourced and manufactured to very tight tolerances, so a certain amount of "shopping around" has to be done to find the right source. Then, an assembly facility has to be lined up, etc., etc. So much goes into a new product before its actual release it's almost mind boggling.

I am very pleased that you are having such great success with your Rock, and that your problems have "gone away". The main thing is that you are able to use and enjoy your machine!

Thanks again.

[dbfletcher]

Hi Doug
I have been doing the same thing with my bits, I did however see a difference today. I ran the same project twice with the same board thickness. When carving the center line text, using 90 V bit on both projects, the second project carved far deeper. My question is, has this happened to you?
Thanks

I cant say I have seen that yet. I did about 20 some tombstones and signs for halloween and didnt really see any inconsistances. I'll keep an eye out for any oddities though.

Doug Fletcher